the dreaded deca only post

[yushib]

I am wanting to do my first cycle, unfortunatly I am only able to get DECA...I have asked my source if he can get some test and clomid so I can run test with my cycle and clomid after for PCT but he can only get DECA and I cant find another source...

So I am considering doing 250mg of DECA a week for 10 weeks but obviously I wont be able to do any PCT or run test with it...so has anyone done this? worth the risk? is DECA likely to mess with my sex drive/erections at that doseage???

I'm 176lbs @ 14% body fat (Plan on dropping to 13% bf and getting to 180lbs before I run the cycle)

[MattY_D]

deca only with no PCT...pffft forget it, not worth doing it at all, at that weight i think you need to concentrate more on diet than AAS

[perfectbeast2001]

Welcome to AR. I think you know the answer to this question yourself. You are thinking about doing AS with no PCT. That is just plain dumb. You will lose your gains and you will **** up your hormone levels for months to come. At that dose I wouldnt expect any gains but I would expect to lose my libido for a long time.

[J.S.N.]

actually i know alot of people (in real life) who've done deca only with no pct and have kept lotsa gains, despite what people on these boards will say. i personally have done deca only though and i had really bad water retention/blood pressure, so don't feel like it's completely safe. also my nipples got really sensitive, although i'm still in the process of cutting to see if i actually got any gyno from it.

btw there are tons of places online you can buy clomid legally as a research chemical so don't worry about pct drugs.

[SMAN12b]

WELCOME TO AR

176???? How tall are you??
answer ALL the green questions below, adn we can help you better

Sorry, but even IF your cycle was a good one, whiich it isn't, It doesn't sound like you have enough background information to be doing AAS safely !!!

PCT is the MOST important part of ANY cycle!!!!! PERIOD !!!

Deca by itself will shut down your HPTA from the very first shot and you are NOT worried about getting your natural hormones to function properly again??? Even if you don't have libido probems which a lot of people WILL experience, you system WILL be shut down!!

Sorry but the is a VERY DUMBASS move and very immature thinking on your part!!!

[hugoboss]

i believe you just got
These guys know there stuff though, listen and learn. Hold of till you have all you need for a good cycle on hand.

[one8nine]

click on the word pct to buy some pct

[ghoul000]

The guys asking a question because he doesn't know...no need to be rude to him. He didn't say he was about to inject it, asking people is considered research!

[marcus300]

deca only for first cycle is a no no in my book, please do some research before considering this cycle, educate yourself with all AAS compounds and research on first cycles, there is a ton of threads about this subject, dont just use what you can only get hold of,

[yushib]

AGE,HEIGHT,WEIGHT, BF%, DIET, TRAINING, PREVIOUS CYCLES, GOALS, and PCT KNOWLEDGE

Age: 22
Height: 183cm
Weight: 176lbs (80kgs)
BF%: 14%
DIET: I see a sports nutrtionist so my diet is good.
Previous cycles: None
Goals: gain 22lbs or more of muscel

Yeah, I knew the answer to my question before I asked it...I guess I was hoping that everyone would say it was ok...

The reason I asked was because I mentioned to a friend that I was thinking about doing a cycle and he is doing a DECA only cycle (5wks in) with no sides...so he got me some and I have now given him the money for it but cant get any test to stack with it I just guess I dont want to have wasted the money I paid for it...

I know PCT is important, just seems all these guys I have been talking to around here are doing DECA only with no PCT an having no sides so I was being a dumb arse an thought it would be ok...even though I know its not.

Thanks guys

[yushib]

I've thought about it some more an I'm not at all comfortable with the deca only cycle and I know i have some more solid gains to make naturally that will be easy to make w/o the juice...I guess I was just letting myself get sucked in to the hype of cause some mates are doing it...unfortunately they haven’t researched and wont listen to me (after all...what would i know?!)

How long can I keep the DECA for safely? (IE: shelf life???)? if it cant be kept I'll see if I can get rid of it.

Since I guess I will try to use the DECA when the time comes can anyone point me to some info on good deca cycles and good PCT (yes, Im going to search too..but maybe you know some on other boards or that I over look). actually any good info articles for a n00b on AAS would be awesome guys.

Thanks for saving me from my moment of insanity.

....of too google I go....

[perfectbeast2001]

You will have the last laugh when they are all moaning that they have no sex drive in the months to come. Check your Deca for expiry date. Most will say its good for a long time past that date. Bump for more opinions on that though.

[Dangerdan]

I would definately advise against running deca with no pct. With proper PCT however it is possible for some folks to experience excellent gains from deca only at the amounts you described. For my *first cycle, I ran deca at 300mgs weekly for 10 weeks and put on about 25lbs. After pct, I maintained a gain of 20lbs of muscle. Lots of folks here, most with much more knowledge and experience than me, advocate against deca only cycles, but in my personal experience deca by itself can lead to good gains.

[randy6969]

i will be running a test/deca cycle.

test @ 500mg per week for 10 weeks
deca @ 400 mg Per week for 10 weeks


pct nolva clomid 6 weeks

[SMAN12b]

If you store yo deca in a dark cool dry place it will last long after the expiration date with no problems. a year would be fine after the ex date

Nice to see you are thinking about your future.

Your friends may be saying they have no sides, but they may also nOT know what to look for or to atribute to the deca only

[musclehead1]

for your first cycle ud probably want to run a long ester test. Not run a stack of test/deca. Also i wouldnt run deca alone, although i do know of ppl that ran deca alone that kept a lot of their gains. But those guys arent the smartest on the block. your deca should have a exp date that should last you a while even after the date. Or just keep the deca for a future stack.

[aadrenaline]

I would definately advise against running deca with no pct. With proper PCT however it is possible for some folks to experience excellent gains from deca only at the amounts you described. For my *first cycle, I ran deca at 300mgs weekly for 10 weeks and put on about 25lbs. After pct, I maintained a gain of 20lbs of muscle. Lots of folks here, most with much more knowledge and experience than me, advocate against deca only cycles, but in my personal experience deca by itself can lead to good gains.

you say proper PCT if your going to give advice at least tell him what the "proper pct" for deca only would be. basically you told him deca can be ran by itself with proper pct...but you never told him what type of pct would be necessary...lol

if you were to decide on running the deca by itself at a lower dose 300-400mg a week id say run nolvadex throught the entire cycle at about 10-20mgED that should help with the infamous "bitch tits" some guys get, and depending on how bad you shut down (balls disapper) some HCG will help with that, but i dont think it would be needed...also a simple 8 weeker would work.

again though like everyone says its better to stack with test because they compliment each other..by adding test you wont be shutdown (deca dick) throughout the cycle, but if you can deal with maybe not getting it up for periods of time thourghout a low dose deca cycle wont hurt...Gluck