Natural test shut down for good ???

[stuball]

Is it possible for your natural test to shut down for good ??? A guy in the gym was tellin me and my buddy the he's been cyclin for 6 months straight, sus than e than cyp, doin 500 mg's a week, it's his first cycle and he keeps gettin bigger and bigger, ( he's 40 y/o ) than my boy told him that he heard on Howard Stern that Danny ( The D!ck ) Bonaduce did the same thing and his natural test shut down for good, now he has to wear a patch to keep his test up, how much of the Bonaduce story is true, i dont know.. But is it possible ?????

[Kale]

It is absolutely possible, There have been many posts on this board from members whos natty test will not restart and some stay that way.

[stuball]

It is absolutely possible, There have been many posts on this board from members whos natty test will not restart and some stay that way.

What happens to the body besides no more gains or sex ???

[STEROIDZZ]

All i can say to you is dont do a cycle longer then you need to do and do proper PCT..... reason that happend with the guy your talkign about is stupidity.. being on stuff that long is jsut stupid in my opinion.. and im sure they didnt do proper PCT .... sounds like they just kept seeing results and lost focus on w hat can happen to their body

[Kale]

What happens to the body besides no more gains or sex ???

Go and ask any 60 year old man how great they feel. You will get your answer there

[stuball]

All i can say to you is dont do a cycle longer then you need to do and do proper PCT..... reason that happend with the guy your talkign about is stupidity.. being on stuff that long is jsut stupid in my opinion.. and im sure they didnt do proper PCT .... sounds like they just kept seeing results and lost focus on w hat can happen to their body

Well the guy in the gym is on his first cycle, he dont even know what clomid was, but has nolvadex on hand in case of gyno, go figure... I tell so many people about this forum, and to get on and do research, but all i hear is my wife my kids my girlfriend might find out, so i just pass on what i know...

[STEROIDZZ]

Well trust me .. when he gets off cycle and he cant get his thing up.. or becomes fertile.. his wife will know then... so let him know that... and if he doesnt even know what clomid is then i feel sorry for ur friend.. hes heading down a bad road of destruction on his body.... as for nolva for gyno it isnt very helpful... it might hellp SOME but very little arimidex or letro is great for gyno.... but tell your friend to get on here and ask questions and research.. his body wont mean nothing when he's in such horrible health

[stuball]

Well trust me .. when he gets off cycle and he cant get his thing up.. or becomes fertile.. his wife will know then... so let him know that... and if he doesnt even know what clomid is then i feel sorry for ur friend.. hes heading down a bad road of destruction on his body.... as for nolva for gyno it isnt very helpful... it might hellp SOME but very little arimidex or letro is great for gyno.... but tell your friend to get on here and ask questions and research.. his body wont mean nothing when he's in such horrible health

I try, but some people wont listen, i will print this out and show him then maybe then he will listen, there are so many people that come up to me and say i have these little brown beer bottles, whats in them !!! I mean it's amazing, woudnt you ask you source what your gettin ??? I belong to three gym's, and i see it on a daily basis...

[STEROIDZZ]

well its good that he has a friend like you .. because he's on the verge of hurting himself permatly .. just to let him know what he's doing he can alter his natural test production PERMANTLY for the rest of his life.. meaning... he will have to wear a patch in order to function correctly with test..... scary shi# .. thats hwy research is the key before you even consider AA"s mostly including proper PCT

[Rider]

...lol there are ppl that ALREADY have low test levels without touching any aas! So I guess this advice is not for them

[Bruce000]

I've been reading these threads for a month now. i still don't know WTF most of the people are talking about.( maybe a bit slow) but I'd rather be carefull.i was going to start my first cycle this month but thought i should read up a bit more.

[snoopy]

Thats a lesson to all of us, take frequent breaks from the gear. cycle and not take hudge amounts for long priods of time.

[vitor]

Its very rare that testosterone levels doesnt return to normal(or even above normal) with a good PCT.

There will have to be some underlying genetic flaw in the endocrinesystem for that to happen IMO. And if it does, HRT will take care of all problems.

[stuball]

Its very rare that testosterone levels doesnt return to normal(or even above normal) with a good PCT.

There will have to be some underlying genetic flaw in the endocrinesystem for that to happen IMO. And if it does, HRT will take care of all problems.

I just talked to the guy from the gym, i think i put a little scare in him, i told him i would do some research for a good pct, then he told me he was gonna cut back to 1 shot a week 250 mg's for a couple of weeks than 1 shot 125 mg's for a couple of weeks than do pct, i dont know if thats a great idea but its a start...

[james21]

99.999% of people will bounce back some take longer some shorter but its a 1 in a million that its shut down forever. It would be like a preexisting problem

[t-gunz]

How long should you cycle for though? like maxium? would it depend on what your taking too?

[james21]

Your body always regenerates ..... its a matter of time

[STEROIDZZ]

It doesnt matter if its rare that your body will shut down for good or not ... you still have a chance.... and how long a cycle depends on the AA"s as well as your experience with AA's. .. and to your question about your friend at the gym .. there is no need to taper his dsg's down on test thats stupid..... he's actually messing his self up more considering he's going from his large dose to small dose, and even smaller.. ( m essing with blood plasma lvls) . just end it and start ur pct on correct time