Tren in second Cycle- NEED ADVICE

[Gunns420]

Age 25
1 cycle
210 lbs 13% bf

I was planning on doing:

weeks 1-5 TEST PROP 150mg eod
weeks 1-12 TEST E
weeks 8-12 WINNY 100mg ED

clomid & nolvadex for PCT.

My goal is basically to get completely jacked. I have alot of muscle now but I am in the process of dieting to cut down the bf. My friend told me maybe I should reconsider the Winny and try Tren instead. He loves it and says the sides arent that bad. I used winny before at 50mg ed in a bulking cycle. Just wanted some advice- I want to have a ripped, vascular effect from my cycle. Diet- 3500 cals a day 3oo+ g protein on cycle- 2000 lowfat noncycle with Heavy cardio 3x a week

[Gunns420]

bump

[STEROIDZZ]

SO let me get this right this is going to be your 2nd cycle right ? tren in your 2nd cycle would be a big NO NO ... tren is very anabolic, and has very harsh sides.... its nothing that someone should include only in their 2nd cycle its meant for more experienced users of AA's ... i would say go with your previous cycle it looks great... nice kickstarter... and nice incorporating winny into it .. i would like to know your dsg for test per wk? You might want ot check out your winny dosage it seems a lil high.. i would say 50mg ed to 75mg ed if this is ur first time.... more isnt always better my friend ( common misconception)

I also would like to know your stats, and cycle experience along with the dosages... since you have used AA's once before 75mg of winny might be fine to use.. but i woudltn suggest 100mg ..... list your stats and i can better help you

[Gunns420]

Age 25 210 lbs 13%bf
cycle experience

1 cycle
Test E 500mg per week 1-12
Winny 75mg ed weeks 8-12

gained 22 lbs., but I have lost weight and gained a little fat back since the cycle- I have started a cardio routine recently and plan to run clen in the next 6 weeks on 2 off 2 until cycle.

I think the Prop kickstart will be a huge benefit. I wanted to run the prop eod @ 150mg. I was shooting the WInny at first but many people told me to drink it just at 75mg ed instead of the 50 I was shooting. The pain sucked from the injections. I also drank it 2x a day due to the short half-life when I did drink it. I think it did the trick....but it was my first

[STEROIDZZ]

Not a bad first cycle at all.. i see you have done some research.... althought you started off using winny a lil high its ok... in this case i would suggest either mainting it at 75 ( if you saw good results) but then why change it?? but if you wish to bump it to 100mg that is fine as well.... 22lbs is great i might say.... i assume your going to shoot your test in this cycle at 500mg too right ? but plz stay away from the tren until you have many cycles under your belt

[Gunns420]

Yeah I'm going to run the Test @ 500mg a week. I guess Tren must be some pretty hardcore stuff....I am no expert but I do look into things- and this site has helped tremendously. I was so nervous to inject myself until I came here- its kind of funny now because I look forward to the injections... but as far as the Winny goes I guess I might as well run it 75 again. I considered many different types off AAS as a stack- I considered Masteron but figured my bf% is too high. I guess I might as well stick to what works....but I do love trying new things.

[STEROIDZZ]

I undertand temptation is a Bit## specially when you hear the great stuff that tren does for people... but trust me your making the right decision.. stick to what gives you the best results.. when you think you cant gain anymore from the dsg your at.. thats when you can switch things up .. maybe bump dsgs up a lil more... or add a AA such as tren... and yes materon should only be used with someone with very low bf.. but if you get to the point were your bf is real low masteron has wonderful results from what ive heard.... goodluck... and hats off to you for listening ... keep me updated with your results.... keep researching