Using deca to maintain mass gained from test E and Dbol?

[Mike Dura]

In november, I'm going to run test E at 750mgs a week and kick start that with dbol 20mgs ed for four weeks. Both of these drugs are not associated with keeping the gains made post cycle. Deca, however, is associated with keeping gains. If I throw in deca as the last injectable, do you think that the gains from test E and dbol would better be kept?

[BG]

IGF-1 in pct would be my pick.

[Hellmaskbanned]

How is deca going to add to kept gains?

I always thought of the best compounds for keeping gains were either ones that don't cause bloat (no water weight loss) or compounds that aren't hard on your HPTA....

IGF-1, HGH helps in keeping gains.

[fitman]

what does igf1? and is it insulin and gh?

[neverenuff21]

How is deca going to add to kept gains?

I always thought of the best compounds for keeping gains were either ones that don't cause bloat (no water weight loss) or compounds that aren't hard on your HPTA....

IGF-1, HGH helps in keeping gains.

Sound advice. Do some research. IGF=insulin-like growth factor.
You should know enough to know this if you are cycling.

[neverenuff21]

Its all about the pct. The quicker you can get your nuts to recover, the more you'll keep.

[Gunns420]

correct me if I'm wrong- but isn't using DECA w/out any Test a huge no-no? Isnt that where the term "Deca Dick" comes from? I'm afraid to touch that shit for that reason alone.....

[AustrianOAK14]

ive had great gains from deca only cycles!

[Mike Dura]

I came across Robert's rating system of steroids (a chart under steroid resources) and it rates how much of gains are kept from different compounds.
Dbol and test E doesn't rate high but deca has a rating of 4 (out of a possible 5) stars so it would seem that deca can fascilate long term gains from a cycle. And yes, I agree that pct is important here - no doubt.

[cfiler]

correct me if I'm wrong- but isn't using DECA w/out any Test a huge no-no? Isnt that where the term "Deca Dick" comes from? I'm afraid to touch that shit for that reason alone.....

That's true, deca without test does cause sexual issues. Libido is lowered, aswell as "deca dick" in most users.

Best thing to use would be IGF or HGH. Clen has also been shown to help keep gains after cycle. You could throw some clen into your pct, and bump your cals up.