New Cycle Starting MONDAY***(please critique)

[lightwaytbaby]

Hey guys, ive finally put together a cycle, and hers's how its going to go.Please critique.My goals are Lean muscle mass, this is my 2nd cycle, I'm
currently 6'3'', 218lbs., @13% BF. I have been training for 5 solid years, and have done 1 cycle 2 yeras ago(test/deca).MY diet is similar to the sticky bulkig diet in the diet section with slightly less carbs adjusted for my weight.

Week 1-12 Test Andropen 275mg EOD
Week 1-8 Fina 100mg EOD
Week 1-4 Dianabol 30mg ED
Week 5-12 Turanabol 50mg ED

PCT with nolvadex/clomid(this is simple and has worked well in the past)

Please let me know what you think...

[01dragonslayer]

I don't like the dbol and tbol bach to back. 12wks of a 17aa is way too long. IMO run one or the other....no both. I would also recommend that you cycle your tren ace ED. It will be more effect because of the constant blood level as well as keeping sides to a minimum.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Hey guys, ive finally put together a cycle, and hers's how its going to go.Please critique.My goals are Lean muscle mass, this is my 2nd cycle, I'm
currently 6'3'', 218lbs., @13% BF. I have been training for 5 solid years, and have done 1 cycle 2 yeras ago(test/deca).MY diet is similar to the sticky bulkig diet in the diet section with slightly less carbs adjusted for my weight.

Week 1-12 Test Andropen 275mg EOD
Week 1-8 Fina 100mg EOD
Week 1-4 Dianabol 30mg ED
Week 5-12 Turanabol 50mg ED

PCT with nolvadex/clomid(this is simple and has worked well in the past)

Please let me know what you think...

Way to much test. Reason why?
Why are you running so many compounds?
With your stats you should surely gain from less.


Running tbol after dbol with those doses should not cause any problems...BUT you should drop one because it is not needed.

[FranKieC]

Just run the Tbol..Also do as Dragon side and hit that T-Ace everyday.

[pumpd4lif]

I don't like the dbol and tbol bach to back. 12wks of a 17aa is way too long. IMO run one or the other....no both. I would also recommend that you cycle your tren ace ED. It will be more effect because of the constant blood level as well as keeping sides to a minimum.

i must agree i would run the test bro mon wed fri at the most. 2nd cycle u will still have great gaines

[Gunns420]

drop the Dbol- that stuff is junk anyways. Sure it gives you a boost in strength, but the gains are all bloat.

[C_Bino]

Most of the comments are bang on so I wont repeat them. I will just say 100mg eod for Tren is low imo. I dont mean tto say do more because I dont like recommending anyone really do MORE or anything illegal. But I will just say that its low and eod isnt crap fro tren. That would be 50mg ed...I would use at least 75mg ed.

[pumpd4lif]

drop the Dbol- that stuff is junk anyways. Sure it gives you a boost in strength, but the gains are all bloat.

not true thay are not all bloat yes u retain water but too say it is all bloat is an uneducated statement.but like said above u should drop one or the other and i personaly would drop the d-bol as gunns stated

[Gunns420]

I found that gains made with DBOL usually diminish even when diet and PCT are in check- its just my personal opinion though. I'm big as it is (5'9 210 lbs 12%) so DBOL really isnt my thing- I like a more ripped vascular look. Also DBOL tends to make people's face and heads look very swollen

[pumpd4lif]

I found that gains made with DBOL usually diminish even when diet and PCT are in check- its just my personal opinion though. I'm big as it is (5'9 210 lbs 12%) so DBOL really isnt my thing- I like a more ripped vascular look. Also DBOL tends to make people's face and heads look very swollen

yes i agree it is a very sloppy aas but it can assist in alot of ways depending on ur goals.

[lightwaytbaby]

i was learey about running alot of tren my first time due to it's toxic nature, but i will most likely bump up to 75mg ED.And i was kind of liking the fact that i could run the andropen/fina same shot EOD, but it's not that big of deal, but the andropen does have some really short esters.i might bump the d-bol, but its nice to see immediate gains, and ive never tried it before.so would you reccomend starting off with t-bol, or using it the last 6 weeks of the cycle.thanks for the help...

[lightwaytbaby]

[QUOTE=Hellmask]Way to much test. Reason why?
Why are you running so many compounds?
With your stats you should surely gain from less.


I was thinking to keep my blood levels stable throughout with that dose, but will most likely adjust to 3x weekly (825mg).ive read that with andropen due to the diffrent mixture of esters(mainly acetate and enanthate), you get much less than 275mg per dose.

I was thinking d-bol all the way, i have never tried it, and wanted to experience it.allthough i am planning dropping a little BF%, it may not be that wise.I also didnt think as you stated the combination of the two would be so harsh at those doses.

[SVTMuscle*]

holy side effect batman!

keep up posted on what you do

[hugoboss]

holy side effect batman!

[CSAR]

holy side effect batman!

[01dragonslayer]

I was thinking d-bol all the way

....all waaaaay????.....through the entire cycle????

[godric]

i know some guys who are runned only d bol 6 six months without brakes. they are alive nowadays

[lightwaytbaby]

sorry, you misunderstood, i was thinking like dbol was going to be the drug of choice to begin my cycle for 4 weeks.not all the way, come on guys im not stupid...

[01dragonslayer]

sorry, you misunderstood, i was thinking like dbol was going to be the drug of choice to begin my cycle for 4 weeks.not all the way, come on guys im not stupid...

You'd be surprised dude.....especially with novices who don't do any prior research.....just watchin' out for ya.

[lightwaytbaby]

thanks bro..anymore suggestions?

[pumpd4lif]

gl and focus on diet bro eat till u cant taste it anymore lol (clean of course )

[RBD85]

Hey guys, ive finally put together a cycle, and hers's how its going to go.Please critique.My goals are Lean muscle mass, this is my 2nd cycle, I'm
currently 6'3'', 218lbs., @13% BF. I have been training for 5 solid years, and have done 1 cycle 2 yeras ago(test/deca).MY diet is similar to the sticky bulkig diet in the diet section with slightly less carbs adjusted for my weight.

Week 1-12 Test Andropen 275mg EOD
Week 1-8 Fina 100mg EOD
Week 1-4 Dianabol 30mg ED
Week 5-12 Turanabol 50mg ED

PCT with nolvadex/clomid(this is simple and has worked well in the past)

Please let me know what you think...

Doug, lay off the juice!


...itha potein shake

j/k bro good luck and get big!!!

[lightwaytbaby]

that is the funniest thing ever...