First cycle?

[CSAR]

Just want to get some feedback on a potential first cycle that I got off of steroids.com

Seems like a lot of gear to me for an AAS virgin, but it's listed as a novice cycle.

My stats:
35 y.o.
6'
193 lbs.
8% bf

Lifting experience:
Been lifting for over 21 years, played collegiate football, military veteran, tried all types of workout routines/cycles.

Goals:
I'd like to put on 5-10 lbs of lean body mass by the end of my first cycle and avoid as much water bloating/gyno as possible. I know a potential good part of this gain will be water. I've been following the diet advice of I**mfkr and my diet is clean and dialed tight. My eventual goal is to be around 225 at 5% bf in a few years time. Depending on how I look, I would like to compete as an amateur (probably masters class if I'm too old, ha ha) if possible.

Novice cycle 2-3 taken from steroid.com:

Weeks 1-4
Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg
Deca/200 - 400 mg
Testosterone Propionate 50 - 75 mg/ED
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

Week 5
Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg
Deca/200 - 400 mg
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

Weeks 6-10
Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg
Deca/200 - 400 mg
Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

Weeks 11-12
Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

Weeks 13-15
Clomid Therapy
Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day

Clomid Therapy

Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
Week 3 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg


Notes About Novice Cycle #3: This is a very simple beginner cycle that will add a good amount of new mass if you have never cycled before. "ED" stands for Every Day.

Any thoughts, suggestions, ideas?

[1buffsob]

It's a very simple test/deca cycle with a prop kickstart. Very good for beginners. I wouldn't run a SERM (Nolva) with the deca though. Better off with l-dex or letro. .25mg ed.

Most will recommend a simple test only cycle. Either will work. Your choice. But if you do the test/deca, run the test 2 weeks longer.

[hugoboss]

there are some good 1st timer cycles in the stcky's at the top of this section.
Most people here will recommend a test only first cycle!

[taiboxa]

revise ur pct
it shud read
AROMASIN + NOLVA
i would run test 2 weeks past deca
nor19 groups have nice metabos that kan hang around and cause suppression well past its usual active life
so it would look like tihs
test wks 1-14 xmg/wk
prop wks 1-4 x mg/ED
deca wks 1-11or12 xmg/wk
pct week 16-... sex drive is bak

[CSAR]

there are some good 1st timer cycles in the stcky's at the top of this section.
Most people here will recommend a test only first cycle!

Yeah, thanks. I read all of those, but didn't see any that included Deca, which is known to be good for your joints. But Mudman's PCT looks better than this cycle for sure.

[JOOSED]

The deca is really good for your joints. I had shoulder surgery and did a deca/sus cycle and felt nothing. I agree about running the test longer.

[CSAR]

Okay...so after doing a lot more research and taking the advice into account, this is what I've come up with.

2 Weeks Prior:
Letro .25mg/day

Cycle begins!
Weeks 1-12 Test Cyp-----400mg/wk
Weeks 1-10 Deca---------400mg/wk
Weeks 1-4 Test Prop------75mg/day
Weeks 1-14 Letro--------.25mg/day

PCT
Weeks 16-20 Nolva-------20mg/day
Weeks 16-19 Aromasin----20mg/day

Can I get some feedback on this? Much appreciated!!

[taiboxa]

just frontload the testE and drop the prop Much easier that way

[rooterlsu]

CSAR, good luck. I've just begun researching doing a first cycle myself. Would like to know your progress

[CSAR]

just frontload the testE and drop the prop Much easier that way

Okay...I researched various posts regarding frontloading. ?!

Let's see if I got this straight - double the first dosage. So if I take 400mg of Test Cyp per week (two 200mg injections every 3.5 days), then I should take 400mg on the very first day. Correct?

[CSAR]

A little feedback from the vets would be much appreciated!!

[CSAR]

[CSAR]

At the risk of being a bumping boob, can I get some feedback on Post #10 regarding front loading? CHEERS BROS!!!

[CSAR]

At the risk of being a bumping boob...