Help!!!!!!!

[Surfstud18]

I'm almost 22 this is my first cycle. It's tren A and Sust250. I started this morning 1cc of each. Now it's 12:30 am. I feel like I have the Tren cough coming on, I've been having some bad head aches today. I have a enlarged heart already which makes my heart beat slower and it's been going really fast, There's been some sharp pains in my left arm. Which is one of the main veins connected to the heart. Please from the pro's what's going on?

[Surfstud18]

bump asap help ii figure this is normal for the tren "sweats" but didn't think my heart would beat this fast

[SMAN12b]

Tren is a very bad choice for a first cycle. since its tren A, you can stop it now and your sides will go away quickly. Stick with ONE compound preferable the TEST, Not crazy about sust, cause now you are dealing with 4 different esters and the tren ester . That is a lot for a first cycle.

Answer ALL the green questions below and stop the tren A now

[Jsik98]

Yeah dude, first cycle stick with the sust by itself.....As far as what you're feeling did you aspirate?? Cause sounds like you could've hit a vein......Also, juice will raise your blood pressure so you should be very careful if you have heart problems...You're def playing with fire bro

[Surfstud18]

FOR CYCLE ADVICE PLEASE PROVIDE:
AGE,HEIGHT,WEIGHT, BF%, DIET, TRAINING, PREVIOUS CYCLES, GOALS, and PCT KNOWLEDGE

I'm 21, 5"10, 185lbs, 8 meals a day had the boys on AR fix it up for me. Never cycled before, Goals to get huge get cut up. Pct knowledge is I like to add alot of stuff into my pct such as, Tongkat, novla, clomid. Liqdex if i need it. For it being tren it doesn't convert into the estrogen but the sus might give me some bitch tits. That's about it

[Surfstud18]

Blood pressure this morning was 145 over 98 pulse 88. I didn't have any nightmares last night or sweats

[Surfstud18]

I don't really want to throw everything out the window now what if i just do smaller doeses?

[taiboxa]

ROFL drop tren go w/ sust get ahold of some var or something instead of tren

[Surfstud18]

you don't think the smaller doeses would make a difference

[cj1capp]

http://www.bg.ic.ac.uk/Staff/khparke...rt_anatomy.jpg THATS A PICTUE OF WHATS CONNECTED TO YOUR HEART.
i understand your concerns you should be re-evaluated by a doc and get that blood pressure under control also what side of the heart is enlarged.

[Surfstud18]

I really don't know which side it is they told me my heart is a little bigger then normal and have really low blood pressure and could eat a whole bag of salt chips if i wanted too....Whatever that means

[SMAN12b]

you don't think the smaller doeses would make a difference

YES, by all means jump off the cliff form 50 feet instead of 100 feet, it will hurt much less!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO FLAME, but why do people come here and ask for advice but never want to actually believe we are telling them what is BEST for them?? like we have a hidden agendy to keep everyone else smaller than us......lolol

LISTEN TO THESE GUYS....especially TAI when it come to tren...he is the TREN KING !!!

[cj1capp]

I really don't know which side it is they told me my heart is a little bigger then normal and have really low blood pressure and could eat a whole bag of salt chips if i wanted too....Whatever that means

ok thats salt chips but on tren you have high blood pressure .right sided heart enlargement can cause the blood to back up int the pulmonary viens causing shortness of breath confusion dizziness and hypotension low bp when lying down.
left side heart enlargement happens more that is its more common results from blood back uped into the left ventricle common causes are aortic vaule problems hypertension and some other things you are to young to likely have.
get of th tren or get some thing to treat the bp.

[Surfstud18]

I understand and I believe you guys i just wanted to know if it would make a difference. It's just that i have all the pins ready everything ready to go costed a bit of cash and now i have to slam on the breaks. Which is fine with me i really don't want to have major problems with my heart it's not worth getting huge. I have two 10 ml bottles of the sus250 i don't have any novla i was going to just save that for the pct. so I should just do 1cc of sus every other day? and just save the tren for my 2nd cycle

[Surfstud18]

What would treat the bp?

[1buffsob]

YES, by all means jump off the cliff form 50 feet instead of 100 feet, it will hurt much less!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHA!

And yeah, if Tai tells you to drop the tren, then you seriously want to drop the tren!!! That's like a guy from the bomb squad telling you to run. You're gonna wanna listen.

[Surfstud18]

That's great for me to hear I'll drop the tren no worries i still think i can get pretty big from just the sus cause it is my first cycle. Should I just keep up with 1cc of sus EOD? do i need to run nolva with it?

[Surfstud18]

What can i take to lower the bp now though? cause it's still high

[G-1000]

That's great for me to hear I'll drop the tren no worries i still think i can get pretty big from just the sus cause it is my first cycle. Should I just keep up with 1cc of sus EOD? do i need to run nolva with it?

yes just run the sust 1cc eod. No need to run the nolv unless you see gyno sides. Just run it with pct.

No need to meds for high bp. It will come down when the tren gets out of your system. Just have it checked in the nexr 4 to 7 days. If it is not down then look into getting something for the bp.

Tren was a bad choise for a first cycle. I also think you need to do more rsearch fro pct.

[cj1capp]

What would treat the bp?

there are many drugs out there like i said see your doc .it sound like you dont have your pct on had, why not just slow down a little , read about roids that have small effect on bp get your pct together and ask your dock for a mild bp med. at your age you have a lot of test on board all ready take a moth or two to get all that you need and do it right, why play with your health you have 50 more years of lifting and banging chicks take your time and do it right

[cj1capp]

yes just run the sust 1cc eod. No need to run the nolv unless you see gyno sides. Just run it with pct.

No need to meds for high bp. It will come down when the tren gets out of your system. Just have it checked in the nexr 4 to 7 days. If it is not down then look into getting something for the bp.

Tren was a bad choise for a first cycle. I also think you need to do more rsearch fro pct.

good words of wisdom!

[Surfstud18]

What else would i need to add to the pct? Novla, Clomid, Tongkat, L-dex if i need it?

[Surfstud18]

What else would i need to add to the pct? Novla, Clomid, Tongkat, L-dex if i need it?

[MorganKane]

1 cc of sust250 EOD is too much I think for the first cycle.

Thats an average of 875mg of test a week.
You do not need that much for your first cycle.

I suggest you do 1cc every 3rd day.
Pick up your pct stuff NOW.

and of course drop the tren as suggested.

[Surfstud18]

That works for me less shots in my gulte haha thanks anybody else agree with morgan?

[cj1capp]

What else would i need to add to the pct? Novla, Clomid, Tongkat, L-dex if i need it?

this is taken from narkosis ;Standard 'PCT' meds: Nolva with preference...and Clomid (I'd personally go with Nolva..because Clomid can act as a mild estrogen and hypothetically could be HPTA-suppressive in some instances...tho this is subject to debate.I think i should add i no longer use Clomid because of said effects noticed in myself.)

[SMAN12b]

That works for me less shots in my gulte haha thanks anybody else agree with morgan?

Yes and NO

Sust needs to be shot EOD for best blood levels. if you can handle the Math, just drop the dose to 3/4 ml each shot or .75 each shot which will yeild approx 563 mgs/week
Your syringe shoudl have markings on it to get you to 3/4 of a ML

[Surfstud18]

I've heard that too heard the clomid gives you some acne as well

[cj1capp]

That works for me less shots in my gulte haha thanks anybody else agree with morgan?

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[G-1000]

What else would i need to add to the pct? Novla, Clomid, Tongkat, L-dex if i need it?

bro pct should not consist of everthing you can by.

All you need is. Nolv tangkat or trib.

[Surfstud18]

Yes and NO

Sust needs to be shot EOD for best blood levels. if you can handle the Math, just drop the dose to 3/4 ml each shot or .75 each shot which will yeild approx 563 mgs/week
Your syringe shoudl have markings on it to get you to 3/4 of a ML

I can do that totally no prob, Will i still see some good gains?

[G-1000]

I've heard that too heard the clomid gives you some acne as well

not realy from the clomid. It comes from the hormone levels being uneven.

[SMAN12b]

I can do that totally no prob, Will i still see some good gains?

500mgs/week is pretty standard for the first few cycles. IF your diet and training is correct, you shoudl grow like a weed in a rainstorm!!!

[cj1capp]

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hope im not breaking the rules just want the boy to be better in formed

[Surfstud18]

haha i like that saying Thanks alot for helping me out guys and spending time to answer my questions. I will get rid of the tren and stick with the sus and I will save the tren for when i can handle it thanks alot guys I'll be able to sleep better at night knowing i'm not going to wake up in heaven lol

[Surfstud18]

Just pm it to me cause i can't open it cj1capp

[G-1000]

hope im not breaking the rules just want the boy to be better in formed

I have no clue whay that ****** out. I havbe no problem with it being posted

[stupidhippo]

ok .. u said u had an enlarged heart.. do u know if its pathologic or maybe due to physiological reasons? Done intensive endurance sports? The way u are describing how the docs let u know makes me feel its probabl not pathological... if its physiological then it must be only the left side. Gear raises BP... isnt tren especially bad for BP ? or do I remember wrong... also gear raises HR... for me its very substantial, my resting HR is under 60 and when Im on gear it goes up to 80. Since the conditio0n of ur heart is a questionkark I feel uncomfortable in giving u advise to keep doing this.. increased HR and BP are a strain to the heart.. ur numbers wouldnt be very worrying if it would be normal situation but now Im not sure..

[G-1000]

haha i like that saying Thanks alot for helping me out guys and spending time to answer my questions. I will get rid of the tren and stick with the sus and I will save the tren for when i can handle it thanks alot guys I'll be able to sleep better at night knowing i'm not going to wake up in heaven lol

what makes you think that is were you will wake?

[cj1capp]

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thanks gssxr for every thing. cj