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    guest589745 is offline 2/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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    Has anyone had Tren relieve joint pain?

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    "Trenbolone greatly increases the level of the extremely anabolic hormone IGF-1 within muscle tissue (2). And, it’s worth noting that not only does it increase the levels of IGF-1 in muscle over two fold, it also causes muscle satellite cells (cells that repair damaged muscle) to be more sensitive to IGF-1 and other growth factors(3)."


    Wouldnt users be commonly experiencing improved ROM and things of that nature because of it? To my knowledge, this isn't an occurance.

    How much IGF does the average adult male produce?

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    Do steroids that bind tightly to the AR cause an increase in IGF-1 in general (Besides tren ) ? And does an increase of IGF-1 result in increase of ARs ?

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    I've been using Tren the past few weeks for the first time... and all I can say is that I'm sore all over, especially my shoulder joints.. This didnt happen w/ deca

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLBMWMech
    I've been using Tren the past few weeks for the first time... and all I can say is that I'm sore all over, especially my shoulder joints.. This didnt happen w/ deca

    Are you dramatically stronger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Are you dramatically stronger?

    I wont say that my poundages have gone up significantly -- but I'm intensely more aggressive with my weights-- and at lbs I used to do 8 reps... I can now do 12... Also it takes a good 2-3 more sets of each exercise to hit failure in a matter of 2 weeks.

    but I hurt bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLBMWMech
    I wont say that my poundages have gone up significantly -- but I'm intensely more aggressive with my weights-- and at lbs I used to do 8 reps... I can now do 12... Also it takes a good 2-3 more sets of each exercise to hit failure in a matter of 2 weeks.

    but I hurt bad

    Maybe ease up a bit. Try not going to complete failure and adding a couple extra sets instead. THats what I would do at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Maybe ease up a bit. Try not going to complete failure and adding a couple extra sets instead. THats what I would do at least.
    I'm noticing a serious addition of aggression on Tren too -- Not uncontrollable... just surprising

    the funny thing-- I kinda like it

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    It's always nice to think you can take on the world.

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    tren ****S JOINTS and when im on tren is when i get all my injuries ><

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    Do you think its mroe attributed to the increase in strength or the actual way it make you feel regardless ?

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    it makes me DRY

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    it makes me DRY

    Hmmm, I have yet to understand what that feel like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Hmmm, I have yet to understand what that feel like.
    and REALLY tight might be do to expediant growth rate
    like i lose Flexability REAL fast on high tren doses

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    I think for most people its the sudden, high amount of strength increase..I would try to keep reps above 8.. I am doing that whether I am on or off with a few exceptions.. as I am not a powerlifter- I am trying to sculpt my body and USUALLY reps less than 8 only hurt more than help.. just my opinion though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    it makes me DRY
    so running letro while on tren will probably REALLY dry me out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Do you think its mroe attributed to the increase in strength or the actual way it make you feel regardless ?
    This is thrue for me.

    Ligaments/joints cant keep up with the DRAMATIC LBM-strenght increase from tren .

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    another question would be, if IGF1-LR3 decreases joint pain at all. For me, and i know others as well, it INcreases joint pain. Even when used as stand alone drug during PCT..

    this may have to do with IGF1-lR3 effects on building cartilage..

    So basically an increase in IGF-1 could also lead to MORE joint pain instead of less.

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