Oral Only Cycle - Not mine

**shifty_git** · 09-30-2006, 01:57 PM

hi guys -

Guy i know is doing a oral only course.

6 weeks at 50mg per day of Dbol
then
6 weeks at 50mg per day of winnie tabs...

no pct

im thinking ganna have liver overkill? lol

**Hellmaskbanned** · 09-30-2006, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

hi guys -

Guy i know is doing a oral only course.

6 weeks at 50mg per day of Dbol
then
6 weeks at 50mg per day of winnie tabs...

no pct

im thinking ganna have liver overkill? lol

Ok? what about it?

**shifty_git** · 09-30-2006, 02:01 PM

question is -

would the effect on the liver far outway any actual benefits of an oral only 12 week course?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 09-30-2006, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

question is -

would the effect on the liver far outway any actual benefits of an oral only 12 week course?

He will see some gains if his diet & training are in order.

His liver values will alter, but Not life threatening by any means.

So is he running them both for 6 weeks or 1-6dbol 1-12winstrol?

He would be happier running a test cycle , with less sides too.

**shifty_git** · 09-30-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

He will see some gains if his diet & training are in order.

His liver values will alter, but Not life threatening by any means.

So is he running them both for 6 weeks or 1-6dbol 1-a2winstrol?

He would be happier running a test cycle , with less sides too.

1-6 Dbol
7-12 winnie

Well trying to convince him test would be a better way - just he's a puss when it comes to jabbing!

**Hellmaskbanned** · 09-30-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

1-6 Dbol
7-12 winnie

Well trying to convince him test would be a better way - just he's a puss when it comes to jabbing!

Whats his stats? Sounds ignorant.....Scared of a needle and still took the risk of putting his liver in harm just because hes scurred of a needle.

Whats his stats?

I'm guessing he most likely has no business cycleing anything, from how this sounds so far.

**shifty_git** · 09-30-2006, 02:27 PM

well he is in good shape - 30, 5`10, must be 220lbs

been working out since he was mid 20's

eats well and clean -

just un-educated....... and scared of injecting.

and got in with 'that dodgy fella who hangs around the hairdryer' in the gym...

**V_Vandetta** · 09-30-2006, 02:43 PM

well I dont think he will die from this cycle BUt oral only ( BAD)..IMO i have had lots of guys Ask is there any way around the NEEDLES ... ( they are scared.. and the bottem line is that .. if you cant take the injections YOU ARE NOT READY FOR AAS..... because the hole idea behind taking anabolics is to improve your body.. takeing it to the next level.... and it's not advisable to do this with oral only cycles and maybe cause LIVER damage trying to look your best.....

BuT diet and training is the leader is all aspects of the sport and he should think long and hard about trying to side step protocal... just for the sake of FEAR.........

**napoleon** · 09-30-2006, 11:45 PM

Good Post V, (as usual from what I can see)

Oral's only cycle's are silly IMO...

I've actually experienced good gains on them, however the sides were worse.

Lost more hair w/ orals than anything else.

I personally wouldn't do a d-bol winny type of cycle, just b/c of the big up and down..

I would go more w/ t-bol, var or t-bol winny, for slower controlled albeit quality growth. Just my humble opinion bro's...

But keep in mind, test should ALWAYS be the base.

Nap

**taiboxa** · 09-30-2006, 11:47 PM

call him a pussy and let him do what he wants.. he will see gains but from the knowledge u portray of him he is not going to retain much if any at all

**shifty_git** · 10-01-2006, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

call him a pussy and let him do what he wants.. he will see gains but from the knowledge u portray of him he is not going to retain much if any at all

taiboxa speaks the gospel truth yet again - ganna have to change his name to pussy on his gym card

**magic32** · 10-01-2006, 10:53 AM

He'll be okay liver-wise, and as Mask said he'll make some gains, but in the end he'll be sad because this program is so unkeepable.

Often those averse to needles will graduate after running oral only cycles. This is due to a variety of reasons, but disenchanting results is near the top. So get him some liver protectors and wish him well.

M.