Winter Bulk Cycle

**shifty_git** · 10-01-2006, 07:02 PM

Well after yet more n more research I think I have finally figured out what i'm happy with for a winter bulk...
Have changed my usual bulk course from ‘Test Enth, Sus250 and Dbol ’ (have been educated by you guys that it’s a total waste to run 2 types of test)

Have kept the Test Enth at a decentish amount and have added deca at 500mg per week.

Age 26, Weight 196lbs – Height 5`10 (always though I was 5`11 n just found i’m only 5`10! Bit annoyed! BF 12%. Training since Teens (had 3 year gap due to illness when 18-21)

3,500-4,000 clean calories, 300g+ Protein… Work out 3 times per week splitting my workout, and one day extra of cardio and swimming.

Weeks 1-4
Dbol 40mg daily

Weeks 1-11
Deca 500mg
Weeks 1-12
Test Enth 500mg

PCT
L-Dex & Tamoifen tabs on hand incase
HCG 5000iu

Clomid
Day 1
300mg
Day 2-14
100mg per day
Day 15-21
50mg per day

Vit B12, ***** Oils, Flax Seed Oil, Milk Thistle

Any comments or suggestions? Apart from the obvious one of Tren ! lol (have considered it, but have been influenced by TaiBoxers view on run enough test to keep ya going, and go with the deca for gains to keep. And as ive run both those types I’m using b4 I’m happy knowing there good for me)

**taiboxa** · 10-01-2006, 07:05 PM

lot of research and u running DECA 1 week longer than test?
buddy if thats the case u have NO CLUE wat you are doing and are just wasting ur time cycling.

**shifty_git** · 10-01-2006, 07:08 PM

Have now edited -

they shud have been the other way around!

my bad!

**taiboxa** · 10-01-2006, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

Have now edited -

they shud have been the other way around!

my bad!

thats wat i thought but then again i seen even more retarded cycles out there so i wasnt taking anything for granted... looks good
ur pct needs some work
u dont need hcg or clomid

all u need is aromasin and nolva for pct

**shifty_git** · 10-01-2006, 07:20 PM

well ma nuts have shrunk a bit from Test based courses ive done b4, so have the HCG just incase, but have always used it when had it just to make sure. (along with Nolva)

And always done clomid as well to kick start the little fellas in2 action -
how come some people say its essential after a course yet others say you can get away with not bothering?

**hosam4ever** · 10-01-2006, 07:21 PM

DONT TIME FRAME UR PCT stop it when u feel ur ok

**shifty_git** · 10-01-2006, 07:52 PM

well got loads of spare PCT.... so the plans just a guide, but see where ya comin from fella!

**fLgAtOr** · 10-01-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

well ma nuts have shrunk a bit from Test based courses ive done b4, so have the HCG just incase, but have always used it when had it just to make sure. (along with Nolva)

And always done clomid as well to kick start the little fellas in2 action -
how come some people say its essential after a course yet others say you can get away with not bothering?

Do what you're comfortable with. The evidence suggests that both are not needed, though. From what I've read, aromasin will replace clomid nicely. And I haven't heard any horror stories about trying this method.