BAD test results!

**Dangerdan** · 10-06-2006, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

Fishing for sources, eh?

You got me.

**BrokenBricks** · 10-06-2006, 02:17 PM

The reason you would run test with deca is not becuase test will help your HPTA recover. It is becuase they work by different mechanisms. Lets say you want to take enough steroids to have X anabolic effect. If you tried to get that "X" level with only a Nor-19 like deca and tren you would need to use some specific amount. If you tried to get that same X anabolic effect with test, or any other test derivative, you would need some certian amount, depending on the drug. Since they act by different mechanisms, combining a Nor-19 and a test will let you run not simply less of each that you would alone, but less IN TOTAL. And becuase the Nor-19 are so rough on test levels, you need ALOT of Nor-19 to overcome the test deficiency. All of the anabolic mechanisms that are unique to test are lowered, making the dosage of Nor-19 needed to compensate that much higher.

So what does that mean? It means that the price you pay, hormonaly is always much higher with a nor-19, without test, for a given level of anabolic effect.

So when someone says add test, what they should say is "substitue some test in". Comparing 300 mg a week of deca to 300 mg a week deca + 500 mg test is not a fair comparison and it will not be easier hormonally afterwards. But that is becuase you are taking ALOT more juice. Compare 300mp per week deca with LESS deca and MORE test, and in the right proportions you can get the same anabolic effect with LESS juice.

If i havnt beat the point home enough maybe this will help.

X * Y = 9

What can X and Y be so when you multiply them you get 9?
Well, they could be 1 and 9...they could be .5 and 18, or 3 and 3. And alot of other numbers also. But if X is Nor-19s and Y is test, which combination will let you take the LEAST total drugs? 1 + 9 = 10 , .5 + 18 =18.5 and 3 + 3 = 6. You can see the pattern. When drugs act synergisticly you do best by combining them, not excluding one and maximizing the other.

Now the synergy is not multiplication. If you had zero test and alot of Nor-19 you would grow a bit, unlike 0 * 100 = 0. The numbers are arbitrary, but the concept is sound. This is why people stack. Synergy via different drug mechanisms.

**fLgAtOr** · 10-06-2006, 02:24 PM

Interesting. Thanks for writing that out.

**BrokenBricks** · 10-06-2006, 06:21 PM

No prob bro, I'm just glad it it made sense. Im a crappy writer and have anxiety that I don't communicate well )

**Dangerdan** · 10-09-2006, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by BrokenBricks

The reason you would run test with deca is not becuase test will help your HPTA recover. It is becuase they work by different mechanisms. Lets say you want to take enough steroids to have X anabolic effect. If you tried to get that "X" level with only a Nor-19 like deca and tren you would need to use some specific amount. If you tried to get that same X anabolic effect with test, or any other test derivative, you would need some certian amount, depending on the drug. Since they act by different mechanisms, combining a Nor-19 and a test will let you run not simply less of each that you would alone, but less IN TOTAL. And becuase the Nor-19 are so rough on test levels, you need ALOT of Nor-19 to overcome the test deficiency. All of the anabolic mechanisms that are unique to test are lowered, making the dosage of Nor-19 needed to compensate that much higher.

So what does that mean? It means that the price you pay, hormonaly is always much higher with a nor-19, without test, for a given level of anabolic effect.

So when someone says add test, what they should say is "substitue some test in". Comparing 300 mg a week of deca to 300 mg a week deca + 500 mg test is not a fair comparison and it will not be easier hormonally afterwards. But that is becuase you are taking ALOT more juice. Compare 300mp per week deca with LESS deca and MORE test, and in the right proportions you can get the same anabolic effect with LESS juice.

If i havnt beat the point home enough maybe this will help.

X * Y = 9

What can X and Y be so when you multiply them you get 9?
Well, they could be 1 and 9...they could be .5 and 18, or 3 and 3. And alot of other numbers also. But if X is Nor-19s and Y is test, which combination will let you take the LEAST total drugs? 1 + 9 = 10 , .5 + 18 =18.5 and 3 + 3 = 6. You can see the pattern. When drugs act synergisticly you do best by combining them, not excluding one and maximizing the other.

Now the synergy is not multiplication. If you had zero test and alot of Nor-19 you would grow a bit, unlike 0 * 100 = 0. The numbers are arbitrary, but the concept is sound. This is why people stack. Synergy via different drug mechanisms.