Tren questions

[BrokenBricks]

A few questions that dont seem to be in the profiles. First, why does test compliment tren? I do understand that the mechanisms of action of 19-nor's is different from test machanisms (though im not sure excatly how). But is there something else that makes it desirable? I hear that Tren will shut your HPTA down hard but i dont understand why that would make stacking test usefull. I suppose if the reduction in natural test meant losing some synergistic benifit to having both it would be best to keep your levels up with exogenous test. Is that the rationale? That the low test creates a partial block on the effectiveness of 19-nor's?

Also, what type of pct is usefull with tren? It seems like HCG would be a no brainer since it shuts down the HPTA for most people. Without test, and therefore without estrogen, will the increased progesterone not be a factor in gyno? As I understand it, both estrogen and progesterone must be present to get gyno.

What can someone expect running low dose tren alone? Tren and HGH alone?

I found some progesterone recepotr blockers in a PCT sticky. Does anyone use those on tren in practice? I have never heard them mentioned, only the prolactin reducers are brought up in threads.

[CFH]

you need the test b/c tren will in essence shut down all natural test production = NOT GOOD. There is no point in running a cycle if you wont have any test in your body. I would never run any cycle w/o test. As far as pct, i have found for myself that there is no need for hcg unless i run a long cycle, 5 months or more, or a super high dose cycle. Clomid works just fine for me for a regular cycle, i run it for 30 days. it sounds like you are going to be running a low dose of tren anyway so i see no reason to be freakin out about your pct.

as for what to expect, i have no idea. i don't know anyone who has run tren alone or tren/ gh alone. i can tell you one thing to expect w/o test tho....limp dick....no sex for you!!!

[BrokenBricks]

You mean no libido after the cycle or during as well? Even with low test wouldnt you expect tren's androgenic effects to increase libido? I suppose it is analogous to deca dick, but i was never clear on whether that was after the cycle with test having been shut down, or during the cycle with test shutdown and the 19-nor being not a factor in libido itself.