Dave Pallumbo suggested mass cycle

[perfectbeast2001]

1-4 IGF 11mcg per day
7-10 IGF 11mcg per day
13-16 IGF 11mcg per day
1-8 Test Cyp 800mg rising to 1200mg week 5 and back to 800
9-16 Sus 750mg rising to 1250 week 13 and dropping to 1000mg
1-8 EQ 300mg rising to 400mg week 5 back to 300 mg week 8
9-16 Tren 150mg slowly rising to 250 by week 16
1-16 GH 2iu rising to 4iu mid cycle and dropping back to 2
1-16 Arimi 1 per day

This is what Mr Palumbo suggests in his most recent MD online article. He also lists a comprehensive diet. I dearly hope he did not actually write this as it is crap and the way it is all written where he states this is the definitive mass gaining programme may mislead many idiots into avtually running this. Goodbye stable blood levels! And why change the test half way through. Discuss.

P.s. go check the diet out too if you really want a good laugh.

[Maldorf]

Some bad advice for sure. Makes you wonder how he managed to grow so big doing such things. Does he practice what he preaches!?

[J.S.N.]

what a phuckboy. palumbo is the posterboy for AAS abuse IMO. the only person who can touch him in terms of looking liek shit is kovacs, and lately, king kamili.

[perfectbeast2001]

I just can't believe this has been written. Does the guy know nothing about AS use. Why run IGF at 11mcg, why run 16 weeks of GH. Pointless.

[V_Vandetta]

I just can't believe this has been written. Does the guy know nothing about AS use. Why run IGF at 11mcg, why run 16 weeks of GH. Pointless.

AMEN ..... have known many pros from training to being just friends .. I know for a fact that they lie their asses off .. when doing interviews .. my one boy did the same thing he posted In a magazine a training rutine .. and when i read it I laughed my azz off.. he left out a lot of sh*t .. and when i asked him all he could say was ( would a magican revile he secerts ) than you would have a bunch of magicans to compete with .... So once again you cant belive eveything you read

[Bigmax]

Thats true what V said...but at the same time there are ghost writers that just put whatever....There were a whole bunch of articles written and a pic of ian harrison was put next to it and he didnt even know they were being written...but he kept his mouth shut cause he was being paid by the company.

[smiler]

1-4 IGF 11mcg per day
7-10 IGF 11mcg per day
13-16 IGF 11mcg per day
1-8 Test Cyp 800mg rising to 1200mg week 5 and back to 800
9-16 Sus 750mg rising to 1250 week 13 and dropping to 1000mg
1-8 EQ 300mg rising to 400mg week 5 back to 300 mg week 8
9-16 Tren 150mg slowly rising to 250 by week 16
1-16 GH 2iu rising to 4iu mid cycle and dropping back to 2
1-16 Arimi 1 per day

This is what Mr Palumbo suggests in his most recent MD online article. He also lists a comprehensive diet. I dearly hope he did not actually write this as it is crap and the way it is all written where he states this is the definitive mass gaining programme may mislead many idiots into avtually running this. Goodbye stable blood levels! And why change the test half way through. Discuss.

P.s. go check the diet out too if you really want a good laugh.

how does one get there? (md online) i get the mag all the time and last i read they were gettn it up and running but no where did it give the addy. when i type what would seem logical in google....nothing

[warlock]

What does the diet look like?

[Swifto]

Ramping the doses could be used to push through a plateu when a tolerance has built up. But...I doubt a tolerence can be built over "week 5". Ramping the doses may work after 10 weeks of the same dosage though.

[perfectbeast2001]

Ultimate Mass
Written by Dave Palumbo
Sunday, 24 September 2006
Whether it occurs while appearing at various bodybuilding
contests around the country, or by daily email, or by personal cell
phone inquisition, I am constantly accosted by the same question:
How do I get HUGE? I have finally decided to put together the most
definitive mass-gaining program available anywhere in the world. I
can guarantee that if you follow the simple tenets that I will lay
out before you in the next several paragraphs, you will find that
your muscle-growing abilities will prosper.

FOOD INTAKE:
When attempting to gain mass, the most common pitfall
confronted by most bodybuilders is that they simply do not consume
enough protein. If you ask them if they eat enough, they all
invariable reply,
"You wouldn't believe how much I eat!"
My response to that statement is,
"You've never seen me eat, have you?"
At that point, the inquisitor invariably starts getting nervous (as
if they have finally come to grips with the fact that they're
outgunned). My next inquiring question is,
"How much protein do you eat per day?"
to which most people answer,
"I'm not sure, but it's a lot!"
They aren't sure how much protein they eat, but they're sure that
they eat a lot-now there's a real logician! Once I've reached this
point in the "interview" process (as I like to call it), I realize
what I am dealing with and I stop asking stupid questions that I
definitely know the answers to. Instead, I help these individuals
to construct a mass-gaining diet that will fit their particular
needs (Remember: The main goal is to gain lean muscle mass while
minimizing fat gains).
Another very important tenet of gaining mass is that,
while frequent protein consumption is important, over-consumption of
protein can also be detrimental to muscle gains. Because your body
can only process so much protein at one sitting (this amount varies
from individual to individual), consuming too much protein taxes the
liver and kidneys (since these organs need to metabolize, detoxify,
and excrete the extra protein) and this invariably stunts the body's
ability to synthesize new muscle. Remember, we don't want to draw
valuable energy needed for protein synthesis to help and aid the
digestion and detoxification of excess protein.
Back in the early 90's, bodybuilders (myself included) were
consuming 500-600g of protein per day in an effort to increase
muscle gains. What we discovered in the last 5-10 years is that we
were wasting most of this protein and causing our bodies to have to
work extra hard to break it all down. Meanwhile, bodybuilders were
greatly deprived of essential fats such as linoleic acid (*****-6
fats) and alpha linolenic acid (*****-3 fats), cholesterol-fats
(from egg yolks and red meat) for steroidal hormone synthesis, and
monounsaturated fats (such as olive oil and macadamia nut oil) for
muscle cell membrane repair. What we were essentially doing back
then was consuming huge amounts of protein and getting our fatty
acid requirements indirectly by way of all the protein we ate (all
animal protein sources also contain fat). The problem was that we
were only getting animal fat protein. This still left us in a
fat-deprived state. If you fail to consume essential fats in your
diet (just as if you fail to eat enough protein), the end result
will be stifled muscle gains (if on a bulking cycle) or reduced fat
losses (if on a diet).
TAKE HOME MESSAGE: The body does not like to be deprived of protein
or fat-- both are essential nutrients for optimum lean muscle
gains. On the other hand, carbohydrates (of which I have not even
mentioned once) are completely unessential nutrients. If, as
bodybuilders or regular sedentary individuals, we were never to
consume another gram of carbohydrates, our bodies would continue to
grow muscle and metabolize fat without a single hesitation (and most
of us would find that we got much leaner, as well). If some of you
think I have a secret weapon in my arsenal of muscle-building,
fat-burning, techniques, you're correct. It's called KNOWLEDGE!
To reiterate, carbohydrates are not considered essential nutrients
in the muscle-building process; however, they are a very necessary
source of energy when in a mass-gaining stage since we do not want
to use all the essential muscle-building fat to fuel our workouts.
When in a gaining stage, then, carbohydrates are a great energy
source to preserve the dietary protein and fat for muscle-building
purposes. While in a dieting stage; however, fat becomes a much
more desirable energy source since it suppresses insulin release
(carbs stimulate insulin release), it helps the body to maintain
energy levels while on a reduced calorie diet (carbohydrates being
the reduced calories), it provides essential fatty acids to the body
which prevents protective "preservation" modes from occurring
(whereby fat mobilization is halted), and it helps to stabilize
blood sugar levels (reducing food cravings and increasing satiety).

EXAMPLE OF A TYPICAL MASS GAINING DIET:

MEAL 1:
6 whole *****-3 eggs with 1 cup of oatmeal

MEAL 2:
Meal Replacement SHAKE with a liquid carbohydrate drink
(such as GATORAIDE or ULTRAFUEL)

MEAL 3:
½ pound (8oz) of chicken (or turkey or filet of sole or
shrimp) with ½ cup nuts (almonds, cashews, or walnuts) with 1 cup
RICE

MEAL 4:
Same as MEAL 2

MEAL 5:
½ pound (8oz) of red meat (or salmon or swordfish) with
a salad with 2 tablespoon of olive or macadamia nut oil and vinegar
with 1 baked potato and/or yam

MEAL 6: Same as MEAL 3

MEAL 7: Same as MEAL 2

MEAL 8: 6 whole *****-3 eggs with1 cup grits

SUGGESTED MASS-GAINING SUPPLEMENTS:


1. Multivitamin 2 x per day (take all vitamins with food): Men
should take a multivitamin "without iron" added (women require
iron since they lose blood, and thus, iron when they menstruate
monthly)
2. Vitamin C 1000mg 2 x per day (anti-oxidant): Antioxidants
prevent damage from free radicals (which can further damage muscle
cells even after the workout is completed). By reducing cellular
damage to muscle tissue, it enables the damaged muscle (from
training) to repair itself at a greatly accelerated rate
3. Vitamin E (with Selenium) 400IU 2x per day (anti-oxidant): Two
other vital antioxidants.
4. *****-3 Fish Oil Pills 1000mg2-3x per day (essential *****-3
fats)
5. Evening Primrose Oil 1300mg 2 x per day (essential *****-6
fats): As mentioned before, essential fatty acids are required to
help rebuild broken down tissues in the body. If not consumed,
daily, they will, essentially, stunt future muscle growth.
6. MSM Powder (for joints and tissue repair) 2000mg 2 x per day:
All bodybuilders, at one time or another, have had joint pain
and/or injuries. MSM is an extremely bio-available source of
sulfur that is vital in the repair of connective tissue (joint
surfaces, ligaments, tendons, and cartilage). Sulfur is also a
necessary component in the repair and synthesis of muscle tissue
and since we don't eat many foods that are high in sulfur, MSM
becomes a very desirable supplement to the mass-gaining or
contest-dieting bodybuilder.
7. Glucosamine sulfate 1000mg 2x per day: Glucosamine sulfate is
another component of connective tissue that is very rarely
consumed in the diet (since not many people eat ligaments and
tendons along with there chicken breasts and filet mignons).
Ingesting adequate amounts of glucosamine, has, experimentally,
been illustrated to aid in the repair of torn meniscal cartilages,
degenerative joint surfaces, and weak ligaments and tendons.
8. Creatine 5 grams 2 x per day (5g in the morning/ 5g after you
train): Creatine is one of the most incredible natural supplements
to hit the market. Its strong presence, even after almost 10 years
on the market, is a testament to its truly unique abilities. It
does two distinct, yet invaluable, jobs in the body.
First, it causes a volumizing (swelling) effect on the muscle cells
such that the muscles find themselves in an extremely anabolic
environment 24 hours a day. NOTE: Muscle cells love to be well
hydrated. In fact, dehydrated muscle cells are very catabolic-that
is, they are much more likely to break down.
Second, Creatine buffers ATP levels in muscle tissue (ATP is the
only energy source that powers the muscle cells). The reason your
muscles never run out of energy is because creatine (as
creatine-phosphate inside the muscle cell) ensures that ATP levels
are constantly regenerated. The more creatine found inside the
muscle cell, the greater the potential source of ATP. This is a
great advantage to over-trained, contest, bodybuilders and endurance
athletes who require tremendous stores of ATP to fuel these long,
strenuous workouts.

[Bigmax]

Id starve to death!!!!

[perfectbeast2001]

Id starve to death!!!!

I could eat most of that in my first 2 meals. "but you have never seen me eat" yeah whatever Dave.