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10-05-2006, 01:46 PM #1
*Study states shutdown of Testosterone can be avoided, whilst taking Test Enan!*
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Last edited by Swifto; 11-13-2007 at 05:15 PM.
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10-05-2006, 01:48 PM #2
Another reason why to use HCG whilst "on". As an endriconologist once posted on another board, "A good PCT protocol starts from the beginning"...
Or something like that.
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10-05-2006, 02:08 PM #3
Originally Posted by Swifto
very.......... interesting .... indeed good post swifto
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10-05-2006, 02:36 PM #4
testicular fluid obtained by percutaneous fine needle aspiration
That had to fxcking hurt like hell!!!!
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10-05-2006, 02:40 PM #5
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10-05-2006, 05:39 PM #6
You know, this is something I've always wondered about. I mean, if you're using HCG throughout your cycle and you're not totally shutting your natural test down, couldn't you theoretically obtain greater gains?
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10-05-2006, 06:05 PM #7
This is awsome
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10-05-2006, 06:20 PM #8
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10-05-2006, 08:31 PM #9
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It just scares me to use it the whole cycle, because you might make your boys less sensitive to LH. Although after reading this study we can safely say it doesn't happen after 3 weeks.
Thanks swifto, I'll now start my HCG 3 weeks from my last shot... Great info.
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10-05-2006, 08:40 PM #10
[QUOTE=ebjack]testicular fluid obtained by percutaneous fine needle aspiration
Does that mean they stuck their balls?
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10-05-2006, 09:00 PM #11
One thing, I'm disapointed the didnt measure blood free and bound test. Personally I wouldnt care to much about the amount of test in my balls specificaly. Im not trying to impregnate anyone. If ITT is not a good indicator of blood test this could still mean libido loss and atrophy of muscle could still occur. ITT is naturally very high becuase the sertoli cells secrete a binding protien that keeps the stuff around. If HCG stimulates the secretion of those binding protiens to a large degree you would expect normal levels of ITT to mean low levels out circulating test. Either they were only concerned with spematogenisis and not give a hoot about libido and muscle loss or ITT does correlate with circulating test, in which case, they should have said so. Bitches.
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10-06-2006, 08:56 AM #12
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Sure. When I had my vasectomy, they gave me a valium to calm me down, then a local. I was totally relaxed.
Hey, what's the burning smell??? Oh, just my nuts
[QUOTE=Schmidty]Originally Posted by ebjack
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10-06-2006, 12:26 PM #13
[quote=sheltonn]Sure. When I had my vasectomy, they gave me a valium to calm me down, then a local. I was totally relaxed.
Hey, what's the burning smell??? Oh, just my nuts
Your lucky, they didnt give me shit before the approx 4 shots per nut.
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10-06-2006, 12:47 PM #14
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You guys just gave me the chills....
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10-06-2006, 01:40 PM #15
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Ok, so you nuts function better when using HCG . We knew that.
But does ITT relate to levels of natural LH? Does this address the HPTA, which would also be shut down?
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10-06-2006, 02:29 PM #16
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10-06-2006, 02:55 PM #18
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Originally Posted by BrokenBricks
I other words its easier to get the hypothalamus working if it doesn't have to worry about jump starting other processes down the line (testes)?
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