cycle help please!!!

**terminator777** · 10-05-2006, 11:35 PM

I have been lifting hardcore for the past 5 years and have done several cycles. I will be comming in contact with alot sustenon, deca , winny, hgh, hcg , clomid, and nolvadex . I am 200lbs, 5"11, 27yo. I am looking to put on massive muscle as well and lean and ripped muscle. can anyone please help me with some great cycles using the following compounds?

**guest589745** · 10-05-2006, 11:38 PM

Research.

**Knockout_Power** · 10-05-2006, 11:38 PM

I am also interested in these answers. Im same age and weight, but shorter and probably carrying more BF. Wish I had access like that, pretty slim pickens around here. No reliable sources.

**guest589745** · 10-05-2006, 11:43 PM

you guys could easily find th eanswers for yourself if you researched though. I mean come on, this is the basics. Why would you go and buy a bunch of shit you dont even know how to use?

Ok fine, geez lol.

1-12 sust
1-10 deca
8-12 winstrol
1-14 nolva
14-18+ nolva/clomid

1-forever HGH @ whatver IU you choose.

Good luck, sounds like yer gonna need it.

**Knockout_Power** · 10-05-2006, 11:47 PM

Skull, I know what your saying. I have "read" how to use, but its always nice to hear what others have done, where they have made changes, and general "real world" feedback. As stated, I really dont have access, so it doesnt much matter. Just storing as much info in case the opportunity arrises.
Terminator, sorry for jacking the thread, I shut up now =)

**terminator777** · 10-06-2006, 11:03 PM

i agree knockout. i want to hear real life experiences. Skullmasher, if i didnt do research how did i find this page then? i want experienced users of these compounds to help me out with specific dosing details. otherwise id go as my previous routnes. Please help with specific details. "reasearch" is an ignorant answer

**anaBROLIC** · 10-06-2006, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by terminator777

i agree knockout. i want to hear real life experiences. Skullmasher, if i didnt do research how did i find this page then? i want experienced users of these compounds to help me out with specific dosing details. otherwise id go as my previous routnes. Please help with specific details. "reasearch" is an ignorant answer

thats a dumb statement. you did your "research" by finding this site buy googling "steroids " which took all of 2 seconds. if you now hit search within this site for each of those compounds you will find hundreds of users experiences in threads... now i am done jacking your thread. carry on.

**terminator777** · 10-06-2006, 11:48 PM

i dont care about your analyzation of my statements., im on here to get some answers. if you have no answeres then dont reply. this isnt kindergarden wars. grow up and stick to the topic please

**SMAN12b** · 10-07-2006, 12:07 AM

what were your previous cycles???

**THEjuiceISloose73** · 10-07-2006, 12:19 AM

how many cycles and what did you take
body fat%

**redwizza** · 10-07-2006, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by terminator777

I have been lifting hardcore for the past 5 years and have done several cycles. I will be comming in contact with alot sustenon, deca, winny, hgh, hcg, clomid, and nolvadex. I am 200lbs, 5"11, 27yo. I am looking to put on massive muscle as well and lean and ripped muscle. can anyone please help me with some great cycles using the following compounds?

250mg sust every 3 days 1-12 weeks
400mg deca per week 1-12 weeks
50mg winny per day 13-16 weeks
500iu hcg per day 13-16 weeks
100mg clomid per day week 15
50mg clomid per day weeks 16-18

nolvadex 20mg-40mg per day when/if gyno symptoms occur.

results will be amazing if u use real stuff, and your diet stays clean and consistently rich in high quality calories.

**THEjuiceISloose73** · 10-07-2006, 12:48 AM

red u gotta find where he has been before you advise him on something new prolly just gonna get hurt if he doesnt watch it

**redwizza** · 10-07-2006, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by THEjuiceISloose73

red u gotta find where he has been before you advise him on something new prolly just gonna get hurt if he doesnt watch it

sorry.

but, my suggestion was based on his current stats...and the drugs that he has available for him. i assumed he wants to use everything. if i want to give my opinion....it would be to stick to 500-750 test per week for 12 weeks.....THATS IT! and clomid for 3 weeks begining week 15.

i dont like stacking...i was adhering to the norm around here.

**terminator777** · 10-07-2006, 02:12 PM

thank you red. that helped me out alot. i am used to heavy cycles but this time im adding hgh and hcg so i just wanted to know if anyone had any better stacking opinions. thank you i appreciate the help!!!! I was thinking this. what do you think?

Week Supplement/ MG/ Week
1 Sustanon /250 mg Deca 250 mg
2 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg
3 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg
4 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
5 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
6 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
7 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
8 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 750 mg Winstrol /50 mg/ED
9 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 750 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
10 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
11 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
12 Sustanon /250 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
13 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex / 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
14 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
15 Clomid Therapy 6-oxo
16 6-oxo

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-07-2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by terminator777

thank you red. that helped me out alot. i am used to heavy cycles but this time im adding hgh and hcg so i just wanted to know if anyone had any better stacking opinions. thank you i appreciate the help!!!! I was thinking this. what do you think?

Qualified to use HGH @ 5'11'' 200lbs......I think not.
After your "heavy cycles" you sure are on the smaller side.
It would be wise to correct what you are doing wrong before you jump into serious shit...as in correct diet & workout routine or whatever is keeping you from making gains.

**SMAN12b** · 10-07-2006, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by terminator777

thank you red. that helped me out alot. i am used to heavy cycles but this time im adding hgh and hcg so i just wanted to know if anyone had any better stacking opinions. thank you i appreciate the help!!!! I was thinking this. what do you think?

Week Supplement/ MG/ Week
1 Sustanon /250 mg Deca 250 mg
2 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg
3 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg
4 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
5 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
6 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
7 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
8 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 750 mg Winstrol /50 mg/ED
9 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 750 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
10 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
11 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
12 Sustanon /250 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
13 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex / 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
14 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
15 Clomid Therapy 6-oxo
16 6-oxo

Well to be honest the above cycle SUX A$$ !!! you gonna get wicked sides with it

**terminator777** · 10-07-2006, 05:52 PM

ok so then can someone please help me if im wrong with that cycle? i have all that crap and i wanna be able to use it properly. i got that cycle from "research". so obviously i need some guidance. can someone please help

**terminator777** · 10-07-2006, 05:52 PM

ok so then can someone please help me if im wrong with that cycle? i have all that crap and i wanna be able to use it properly. i got that cycle from "research". so obviously i need some guidance. can someone please help

**SMAN12b** · 10-07-2006, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by terminator777

ok so then can someone please help me if im wrong with that cycle? i have all that crap and i wanna be able to use it properly. i got that cycle from "research". so obviously i need some guidance. can someone please help

N O

Not until you answer OUR questions. How can we give you advice on cycles when we still dont have ALL your stats. I made it easy for you, Just answer ALL the green questions below, and I will help you better........

Where in your RESEARCH on here did you get a cycle that told you to Pyramid your doses ??

**guest589745** · 10-07-2006, 06:04 PM

Here:

Week Supplement/ MG/ Week
1 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
2 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
3 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
4 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
5 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
6 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
7 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
8 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg Winstrol /50 mg/ED
9 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
10 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
11 Sustanon /500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
12 Sustanon /500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
14 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex / 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
15 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
16 Clomid Therapy 6-oxo
17 6-oxo

Do it like that.

**THEjuiceISloose73** · 10-07-2006, 06:32 PM

haha terminator wont tell us anything whatever let him get hurt have fun on the OTHER side haha

**LatinoPR** · 10-07-2006, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by terminator777

thank you red. that helped me out alot. i am used to heavy cycles but this time im adding hgh and hcg so i just wanted to know if anyone had any better stacking opinions. thank you i appreciate the help!!!! I was thinking this. what do you think?

Week Supplement/ MG/ Week
1 Sustanon /250 mg Deca 250 mg
2 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg
3 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg
4 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
5 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
6 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
7 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
8 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 750 mg Winstrol /50 mg/ED
9 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 750 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
10 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
11 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
12 Sustanon /250 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
13 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex / 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
14 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
15 Clomid Therapy 6-oxo
16 6-oxo

I dont want to be a dik but it does sux...!!!

LPR.

**guest589745** · 10-07-2006, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by LatinoPR

I dont want to be a dik but it does sux...!!!

LPR.

Then why not show him whats proper ?

**LatinoPR** · 10-07-2006, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Here:

Week Supplement/ MG/ Week
1 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
2 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
3 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
4 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
5 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
6 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
7 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
8 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg Winstrol /50 mg/ED
9 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
10 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
11 Sustanon /500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
12 Sustanon /500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
14 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex / 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
15 Clomid Therapy HCG Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
16 Clomid Therapy 6-oxo
17 6-oxo

Do it like that.

got it....????

LPR.

**LatinoPR** · 10-07-2006, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Then why not show him whats proper ?

you did it...!

LPR.

**LatinoPR** · 10-07-2006, 07:08 PM

.....and cuz that was my opinion.......again ,..it sux.!!! like or not.

LPR.

**guest589745** · 10-07-2006, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by LatinoPR

.....and cuz that was my opinion.......again ,..it sux.!!! like or not.

LPR.

But we need to be more helpful than just saying "That sux!!!". I see that you agree with what I laid out though.

**LatinoPR** · 10-07-2006, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

N O

Not until you answer OUR questions. How can we give you advice on cycles when we still dont have ALL your stats. I made it easy for you, Just answer ALL the green questions below, and I will help you better........

Where in your RESEARCH on here did you get a cycle that told you to Pyramid your doses ??

....you want to know why ????, here.....got it......the dude needs to help us so we can help him ....got it ?

BTW... his cycle SUX !!!

LPR.

**terminator777** · 10-07-2006, 07:36 PM

ok well what should i tell you? im all open. thank you skullmasher for your help. i appreciate it. just let me know what you need to know and ill answer

**SMAN12b** · 10-07-2006, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Then why not show him whats proper ?

Because he hasnt' even given us what his previous cycles were , so why make it easy for him??

**SMAN12b** · 10-07-2006, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by terminator777

ok well what should i tell you? im all open. thank you skullmasher for your help. i appreciate it. just let me know what you need to know and ill answer

How many times do we need to ask??

ALL the green questions below PLEASE

Most importantly.....your previous cycles, what your GOALS are for this cycle?

**LatinoPR** · 10-07-2006, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Because he hasnt' even given us what his previous cycles were , so why make it easy for him??

Thank's Sman12B !!!

**SMAN12b** · 10-07-2006, 08:07 PM

I dont' think he has the experience to be using all that, he can't even get his diet correct.

several cycles, and still only 200#

Why give him a cycle when its obvious he isn't ready to do it correctly

**guest589745** · 10-07-2006, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Because he hasnt' even given us what his previous cycles were , so why make it easy for him??

Do you really need to know what his previous cycles were to tell him that pyramiding isnt necessary ?

Hes gonna get what he puts in. I gave him what help I could with what he provided. Thats that.

**terminator777** · 10-07-2006, 08:09 PM

SMAN12B why are you being a dickhead. im on here for help so shutup and help or dont talk. your being rude and ignorant. this is a site not to bitch others, its here to help out community so put your cocky attitude away and help or just go annoy another person.

This cycle options:
Sustenon, HGH, HCG , Winny, Deca , Clomid, Nolvadex

previous cycle:
Week Supplement/ MG/ Week
1 Sustanon /250 mg Deca 250 mg
2 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg
3 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 250 mg
4 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
5 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
6 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
7 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
8 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 750 mg Winstrol /50 mg/ED
9 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 750 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
10 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
11 Sustanon /500 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
12 Sustanon /250 mg Winstrol/50 mg/ED
13 Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
14 Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo

cycle before that:
Week Supplement/ MG/ Week
1 Sustanon /250 mg Deca 200 mg
2 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 200 mg
3 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 400 mg
4 Sustanon /750 mg Deca 500 mg
5 Sustanon /500 mg Deca 400 mg
6 Sustanon /250 mg Deca 200 mg
7 Clomid Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo
8 Clomid Nolvadex/ 10-20 MG/Day 6-oxo

**terminator777** · 10-07-2006, 08:10 PM

SkullMasher thank you! i really appreciate the help that you have provided. seriously thank you.

**guest589745** · 10-07-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Why give him a cycle when its obvious he isn't ready to do it correctly

Because IMO 9/10 people are going to do em whether or not you tell them not to, so I think we should try to give them the help we can, then at least there is a chance they will do it correctly, even if they shouldnt be doing it at all.