First Cycle Need Advice!!

[ElPrimero_33]

WHats good??? first off i weight 165 about 9 % body fat. I want to get up to 180 to 185 solid with about 6 % body fat. What i have is 70 pills of dbol and winny v that are 50mg... For after words i have 30 pills of nolva and clomid which are also 50mg each... I need advice on how i should start and finish this cycle.... I've been lifting for some time now and been gettin good results natural but want to see what i can get out of this cycle and KEEPPP!!! welll any advice would helps lots!!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

Why an oral cycle....any specific reason why exactly?

If your taller than 5'9'' your not ready from being that weight.

[ElPrimero_33]

Yea... the situation i am in right now i can't have injectables or needles even around me... And i was 184 before at 15% bodyfat... But got out here and just lifted and ate right fora couple of months and lost a lot... I got pretty shredded.. Now i've been lifting heavy and gaining weight again so im looking for a little boost....

[carter]

Yea... the situation i am in right now i can't have injectables or needles even around me...

[cfiler]

Winstrol and Dbol cycles is bad news. Both are extreamly liver toxic, and the compounds do not compliment eachother well.

A better oral only cycle would be:

Tbol + Var, or just Var.

Personally I wouldn't run Dbol or Winstrol without a injectable test as a base.

[THEjuiceISloose73]

one ur liver is ****ed with 2 orals
2 without test that shit sucks and will do u nothing u will lose anything from the dbol and winny is to cut which i dont think unless ur competing is really necassary
post ur stats
age
height
weight
years working out
if take this dbol alone will make u gain weight but a lot of water and u will lose it all after but prolly be hard on ur liver cause thats all ur taking and you will over due it and winny is definatly not what u need cause ur light and its used to cut

[ElPrimero_33]

20 years old, 5'8, 169, i've been working out for 3 years

[ElPrimero_33]

alright so i order some more gear.... Test cyp/ena 225/225 for eights weeks on top of dbol for 6 weeks.... I also am going to take nolva and other day which is 55mgs for 10 weeks with everything..... then after about two weeks when im done im going to take clomid for 3 weeks.... I did a lot of research and im sure to learn a lot more but some advice from expriences personel would help greatly.... thanks people

[naz-uk]

i would say to run enanthate at 500mg/week for 10 weeks, and dbol at 30-50mg a week for weeks 1-4.

have nolva on hand if u get any signs of gyno, and start pct 2 weeks after last shot something like arimidex and nolva for 3-4 weeks.