Tren and what to stack w/ it

[HighandWide]

I have heard alot about tren and was wondering what can be taken with it in a bulk cycle...I assume you need a test but was wondering what others are running

[Warrior21]

Stack with a low dose of Dbol. Both of these steroids work through different mechanisms. You can have all the angles covered by stacking with Dbol. Do it do it!

[HighandWide]

thanks...also how long should tren be run in a stack, and when

[Warrior21]

Run Tren from the beginning. 8 weeks should be good enough. It's an acetate so you should see effects within 1-2 weeks. Dbol kicks in around day 3-4.

[HighandWide]

great info warrior.....last question....should i purchase powder or pre-mixed? or does it matter

[Warrior21]

Tren powder? It all depends, are you good with measurements?
Ask away I like helping. Shit I'm going to open a rejuv clinic in about 10 years.

[V_Vandetta]

I have heard alot about tren and was wondering what can be taken with it in a bulk cycle...I assume you need a test but was wondering what others are running

slow down a bit bro first off whts your cycle history... age training weight ext......... becasue tren is not somthing you want to run with out the proper experinace ..... so please answer the questions so we can better help you

[V_Vandetta]

Stack with a low dose of Dbol. Both of these steroids work through different mechanisms. You can have all the angles covered by stacking with Dbol. Do it do it!

bro not to come off as an ass but you might want to find out who you are giving advice to.. with a low post count like he has .. he could be way to young.. or even the experinace to even run tren .... It's good to find out first than help JUST my 2cc

[HighandWide]

2 cycles deep 1. sust, dbol 2. sus, winny dbol

24, 6'6 220.....very athletic....x college decathlete and did triathlons for 2 years w/, trust me, maxed "natural" weight potential

father 6'4 230

If you could understand my diet you would call me a freak....all natural no dairy...soy all the way

[HighandWide]

I've been running shit for 2 years now....just never knew sights like this existed until recently....I'm in grad school and very busy.

[HighandWide]

And Vendetta sorry but that sound like bs to me....So i have to have a limited number of posts before i can ask certain questions?

[Warrior21]

Soy fcks with your test. Stay away from that shit. Don't worry, I'm not going to sit here and tell you "Max out your natty potential first". You know why? Because the same people who are preaching that to you....didn't wait to max out their natural potential either! Tear it up on your cycle!

[V_Vandetta]

2 cycles deep 1. sust, dbol 2. sus, winny dbol

24, 6'6 220.....very athletic....x college decathlete and did triathlons for 2 years w/, trust me, maxed "natural" weight potential

father 6'4 230

If you could understand my diet you would call me a freak....all natural no dairy...soy all the way

bro ok no problem but 6"4 230 whats the Bf% also sus dbol ok stack .. as for hight bro not even close ( well depends ) but myself at 5"11 natty frist starting out at 225 or so with AAS behind me at 265 bulking and lean at 245 under 5% if I was 6"4 the weight should be a lot more .... So with that said Never seeing you or knowing your gentics .....

my money is on a better diet training rutine because BB and triathlons to different ball games... what are your goals ?

because an ideal tren stack will differ from person to person... But IMO
Tren
EQ
masterone
prop is an ideal stack ... but thats me

[V_Vandetta]

And Vendetta sorry but that sound like bs to me....So i have to have a limited number of posts before i can ask certain questions?

No not at all bro just that a 18 year old kid could be posting or someone with very little cycle experinace thats all but you can do what ever you like ... but most know from making the mistakes early on thats all and when giving advice try to help bros from making the same

[V_Vandetta]

Soy fcks with your test. Stay away from that shit. Don't worry, I'm not going to sit here and tell you "Max out your natty potential first". You know why? Because the same people who are preaching that to you....didn't wait to max out their natural potential either! Tear it up on your cycle!

Ohhh really now and you know this how???? bro my point is to know as much about a new bro as you can .. before dishing the advice becasue your advice you give could harm or hinder someone if it does not apply ... But if you feel as if you can just kick the advice with out ever knowing what someone has in mind than by all means you are the man

[HighandWide]

BF 5.7 as of last friday.....haven't done distance work in since before my first cycle which was about 11 months ago...my last ended about 3 months ago....not looking for the BB look but would love to get up to 245....again my diets are pretty intense....here is an close example of my diet

8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of whey Protein
Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, greena
Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice
2 Cans of Tuna,
2 Scoops whey Protein
Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice

[Warrior21]

Ohhh really now and you know this how???? bro my point is to know as much about a new bro as you can .. before dishing the advice becasue your advice you give could harm or hinder someone if it does not apply ... But if you feel as if you can just kick the advice with out ever knowing what someone has in mind than by all means you are the man

How I know? All those "What age did you start using?" and "Who started steroids as a teen?" threads. Have you ever seen of those? If not I'll link some. I see guys admitting to start as early as teen and then they get on other peoples asses when they talk about starting early. That's how I know this.

[HighandWide]

attempt 6000cals a day but more realistically average 4500-5500

[Warrior21]

BF 5.7 as of last friday.....haven't done distance work in since before my first cycle which was about 11 months ago...my last ended about 3 months ago....not looking for the BB look but would love to get up to 245....again my diets are pretty intense....here is an close example of my diet

8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of whey Protein
Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, greena
Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice
2 Cans of Tuna,
2 Scoops whey Protein
Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice

WHOA, not enough calories. Dude that looks like it cant be more than 3000 cals. You need more carbs and fat in there. All I see is protein bro wtf.

[BG]

bro not to come off as an ass but you might want to find out who you are giving advice to.. with a low post count like he has .. he could be way to young.. or even the experinace to even run tren .... It's good to find out first than help JUST my 2cc

Thank you.

[HighandWide]

those are just my meals...trust me i get between 4500-5500....been doing it since my soph year of college because of all the energy lost in decathlons, that was 4 years ago...I am very diet conciencious and get my cals

[Warrior21]

Thank you.

Can't let go huh. How come you couldn't answer any of my questions on the other thread? I little bit over your head? A lot?

[BG]

Can't let go huh. How come you couldn't answer any of my questions on the other thread? I little bit over your head? A lot?

With all the bad advice youve already giving tonite . I know your all reved up son, but slow down, find out peoples history, then recommend an idea........dont go DO IT DO IT.

[Warrior21]

With all the bad advice youve already giving tonite . I know your all reved up son, but slow down, find out peoples history, then recommend an idea........dont go DO IT DO IT.

Nice attempt to slip away from the original question. Why not admit that you don't know the answers?

[HighandWide]

to give you an idea i charted my average intake for 3 weeks vs. cals burned....forgot how we did it then...it was dont with a nutritionist....then figured out how much i needed to maintain and added 2000 cals to that

[BG]

Nice attempt to slip away from the original question. Why not admit that you don't know the answers?

Listen you fuc'n mutt, this is the last time, NO FUC'n body has an answer here, cuz nobodys a fuc'n doctor. Most doctors probably dont know so get used to being small!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BG]

to give you an idea i charted my average intake for 3 weeks vs. cals burned....forgot how we did it then...it was dont with a nutritionist....then figured out how much i needed to maintain and added 2000 cals to that

Not too badf, if you want to bulk you might want to add a 1000 or so cals. Sorry for acting like an ass in your thread, but that pesty fly needs to be swatted.

[HighandWide]

no problem....didn't mean to start shit....I thank anyone who can give ideas only because i have found there is no "perfect" stack or solution. so ur saying to take 6000+ cals?....what about my original Q about the tren?

[BG]

ummm....i thought it was just a simple question.....sorry for all the roid rage i'm causing

Its not you pal, my apoligizes

[V_Vandetta]

no problem....didn't mean to start shit....I thank anyone who can give ideas only because i have found there is no "perfect" stack or solution. so ur saying to take 6000+ cals?....what about my original Q about the tren?

I would like to say sorry as well bro .. just that some people really need to listen rather than speek...


what i would suggest Is to get the diet under rapps .... start with 5000 plus cals train and adjust your diet ... once you get the needed cal amount it will be down hill it sounds as if you have a good hold on your diet and even training ... but when BB trying to add mass iT can be puzzleing ....

because if you run the cycle with out the diet It will be a nitemare to pack it on and IMO a waste of the cycle .. also instead of a tren cycle look into a test deca cycle for bulking much easyer compounds to work with and getting cals in check

[Warrior21]

Listen you fuc'n mutt, this is the last time, NO FUC'n body has an answer here, cuz nobodys a fuc'n doctor. Most doctors probably dont know so get used to being small!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oooo, would you like me to email you a tissue? Get used to being small? Sorry, IGF-1 and Slin work through different pathways. They will do my body good. I can get IGF-1 at like 1/3 of what yall pay here. Basically I'll be on it 1 month on 1 month off for the rest of my BB career if I wanted to.

[HighandWide]

thanks fellas....guess i gotta go start eating more

[V_Vandetta]

thanks fellas....guess i gotta go start eating more

its all good bro But like a said Look in to a Test deca cycle instead of tren... much easier to manage with cal intake ... becasue once you cycle your cal intake will need to get up even more ....... good luck with things and i do apoligize once again

[HighandWide]

yeah if u saw my first 2 cycles that is pretty much what i did (sus, dbol, deca)....results were good 32 lbs in 10 weeks but didn't maintain... wanted to try something alittle different

[V_Vandetta]

yeah if u saw my first 2 cycles that is pretty much what i did (sus, dbol, deca)....results were good 32 lbs in 10 weeks but didn't maintain... wanted to try something alittle different

what was your PCt Like ? check out the PCt fourm It will give you a good understanding on Post Cycle Training... to keeping them gains

[T3/T4 GSR]

because if you run the cycle with out the diet It will be a nitemare to pack it on and IMO a waste of the cycle .. also instead of a tren cycle look into a test deca cycle for bulking much easyer compounds to work with and getting cals in check

I was under the impression that tren would work better than deca in a caloric deficit than deca due to its increased feed efficency?

[Warrior21]

I was under the impression that tren would work better than deca in a caloric deficit than deca due to its increased feed efficency?

Still, that cannot warrant a shitty diet though. He isn't eating enough. He needs to make the most out of his cycle and be eating more.

[V_Vandetta]

I was under the impression that tren would work better than deca in a caloric deficit than deca due to its increased feed efficency?

yes to a sertin degree But the deficit in the diet is intended for a lower range but still with blance .... Thus even with tren It does work great when run for cutting But STILL CUTTING diet still has to be key .. But why i said this IMO tren can work great GIVEN THE PROPER diet Cutting or bulking But when you are In a stage of coming into anabolic dieting TEST deca IMo leaves you far more room to play with cals make gains BUT KEEP THEM THROUGH a easier Pct and satying lean .... But It's different for every one ...

[skipp]

yes to a sertin degree But the deficit in the diet is intended for a lower range but still with blance .... Thus even with tren It does work great when run for cutting But STILL CUTTING diet still has to be key .. But why i said this IMO tren can work great GIVEN THE PROPER diet Cutting or bulking But when you are In a stage of coming into anabolic dieting TEST deca IMo leaves you far more room to play with cals make gains BUT KEEP THEM THROUGH a easier Pct and satying lean .... But It's different for every one ...

I think that's only because tren gives much more drastic gains. If someone with a shit diet was to cycle, they'd get better results from tren though due to (like already mentioned) the increased efficiency.

V you spell almost as bad as tai lol (at least you both give good advice tho..)

[Tbone1975]

bro ok no problem but 6"4 230 whats the Bf% also sus dbol ok stack .. as for hight bro not even close ( well depends ) but myself at 5"11 natty frist starting out at 225 or so with AAS behind me at 265 bulking and lean at 245 under 5% if I was 6"4 the weight should be a lot more .... So with that said Never seeing you or knowing your gentics .....

my money is on a better diet training rutine because BB and triathlons to different ball games... what are your goals ?

because an ideal tren stack will differ from person to person... But IMO
Tren
EQ
masterone
prop is an ideal stack ... but thats me

That's pretty f*ckin huge if you're not lying. That's like Pinnacle or something isn't it? I think he said he was 5'8", 235 with like 7 percent bf. There's some other huge mofos on here too.