frontloading kick-in time?

[ascendant]

just started my first frontloaded cycle and just wondering about how much sooner will it kick in than usual? i'm loaded up on deca and enan. i'm on my second week and already i have the puffiness from the deca, but no significant size gains yet. if i remember right, i believe i should be feeling it by mid this week or next?

[IBdmfkr]

Don't really agree with frontloading personally, I'd suggest using shorter esters for the first few weeks to get it in your system faster.
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate + Test Prop.

[caddilac]

Don't really agree with frontloading personally, I'd suggest using shorter esters for the first few weeks to get it in your system faster.
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate + Test Prop.

Just curious, what do you not like about frontloading?

[gymrocken]

you'll feel it for sure in week 3. size will come in 4-5.

[BigUno]

Don't really agree with frontloading personally, I'd suggest using shorter esters for the first few weeks to get it in your system faster.
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate + Test Prop.

im doin a var, npp and test prop cycle as we speak, so far so good

[IBdmfkr]

Just curious, what do you not like about frontloading?

I'll look for the studies from a while back that show that frontloading really isn't that effective at raising levels compared to the amount of drugs you have to flood your system with, I see the risks/rewards very low in doing something like this when you could just as easily start the cycle with a shorter ester to accomplish the same thing and not bombard the system with unbelievable amounts of a compound, also the point is to build up to the wanted amount and then slowely taper off at the end to clear the system, a sudden change is never good either going on or coming off except for certain instances where Priming is utlized.

[ascendant]

I'll look for the studies from a while back that show that frontloading really isn't that effective at raising levels compared to the amount of drugs you have to flood your system with, I see the risks/rewards very low in doing something like this when you could just as easily start the cycle with a shorter ester to accomplish the same thing and not bombard the system with unbelievable amounts of a compound, also the point is to build up to the wanted amount and then slowely taper off at the end to clear the system, a sudden change is never good either going on or coming off except for certain instances where Priming is utlized.

i completely understand what you're saying here. however, at the same time, frontloading allows a cycle to kick in quicker and get you the results sooner, meaning a shorter cycle and less time you're on, which gives two benefits. first, less time on means less of an impact on your body in all. second, a shorter cycle means a shorter time off, which means you can jump back onto another one sooner.

yet another benefit from a frontload is more stable blood-plasma levels. one of the reasons people sometimes get the "test flu" is because of the hormonal balance of our bodies being offset. well, without a frontload, those hormonal levels are continuously changing, and your body can't maintain a balance because it's continually having to adapt to different levels of chems going through your system.

though i never did frontloading in the past, i have done a lot of research on them and they just make so much sense, i decided to begin using them myself. though i do hold your opinions in very high regard bro, you'll find markus (another who i hold in very high regard) does support frontloading and much of my info regarding frontloading i obtained through him. maybe we should get him in here for this as i'm sure he could give much better justification behind them than i could?

[helium3]

i completely understand what you're saying here. however, at the same time, frontloading allows a cycle to kick in quicker and get you the results sooner, meaning a shorter cycle and less time you're on, which gives two benefits. first, less time on means less of an impact on your body in all. second, a shorter cycle means a shorter time off, which means you can jump back onto another one sooner.

yet another benefit from a frontload is more stable blood-plasma levels. one of the reasons people sometimes get the "test flu" is because of the hormonal balance of our bodies being offset. well, without a frontload, those hormonal levels are continuously changing, and your body can't maintain a balance because it's continually having to adapt to different levels of chems going through your system.

though i never did frontloading in the past, i have done a lot of research on them and they just make so much sense, i decided to begin using them myself. though i do hold your opinions in very high regard bro, you'll find markus (another who i hold in very high regard) does support frontloading and much of my info regarding frontloading i obtained through him. maybe we should get him in here for this as i'm sure he could give much better justification behind them than i could?

this is why i will always frontload, my first test cycle i gained 15lbs by the end of week 3(ok some water) and gained all my strength gains in that time.after that i gained a lb every few days day upto week 6,then notta.basically my findings put me "on" at week 3 instead of week 5-6.so even though its along ester i can still do short cycles,which suits me fine.

[IBdmfkr]

So why not just run a shorter ester and save your body the stress from saturating it with a certain hormone?

Seems a 6-8wk cycle of TestProp or suspension would've been more effective.

Enanthate and cypionate are best taken as HRT, notice how in europe they use enanthate for this reason and the U.S. cypionate.

Prop is the best choice for a bodybuilder IMO.

[helium3]

So why not just run a shorter ester and save your body the stress from saturating it with a certain hormone?

Seems a 6-8wk cycle of TestProp or suspension would've been more effective.

Enanthate and cypionate are best taken as HRT, notice how in europe they use enanthate for this reason and the U.S. cypionate.

Prop is the best choice for a bodybuilder IMO.

good point but test e works out alot cheaper for me than prop.

[stupidhippo]

IMO test is test and the theory (at least) supports front loading. When u think of pharmacokinetics... when u compare frontloading or kickstart with test P the amount of test remains more stable when frontloading (more easily atleast, less ups and downs of hormone levels) and the bioavailable test level can be gotten high enough with frontloading...

[helium3]

IMO test is test and the theory (at least) supports front loading. When u think of pharmacokinetics... when u compare frontloading or kickstart with test P the amount of test remains more stable when frontloading (more easily atleast, less ups and downs of hormone levels) and the bioavailable test level can be gotten high enough with frontloading...

foshizzle.

[V_Vandetta]

I'll look for the studies from a while back that show that frontloading really isn't that effective at raising levels compared to the amount of drugs you have to flood your system with, I see the risks/rewards very low in doing something like this when you could just as easily start the cycle with a shorter ester to accomplish the same thing and not bombard the system with unbelievable amounts of a compound, also the point is to build up to the wanted amount and then slowely taper off at the end to clear the system, a sudden change is never good either going on or coming off except for certain instances where Priming is utlized.

studies or not front loading long life test estors Is not all its cracked up to be I posted on this before ... But went through afew loggs to see what really did happen and let me just say that I WAS A MORON front loading 2g+ of one compound not only did I jack my HPTA,HDL/LDL and everything els up by shuting me down with in the week.... the end result was the same as every other cycle run stable even dosing ... So it one of them things bro try it for your self .. But IMO the far best and only few exception are test p or susp... for front loading to maximize the results of as a front load becasue now matter how much you put in it still takes the active life to break down .... So front loading all the test E or C dont make the estor desolve any faster

[IBdmfkr]

FO SHIZZLE lmao!