Injecting sust E3D?

[jckei]

I know most people recommend test E as a first cycle.

But I dont like that fact that it can take up to 6 weeks to kick in.
It´s not that I am inpatient or anything, it´s just... During half the cycle I will not make any gains? That sucks. 6 weeks before I can be 100% sure the stuff I use is legit?

Is it really that bad if I decide to go with sust E3D instead for my first cycle?

I will use 20mg nolva ED because I think im prone of getting gyno, my nipples allready are "puffy"(from time to time, actually). I will run the cycle for 12 weeks.

[jckei]

Bump

[pumpd4lif]

I know most people recommend test E as a first cycle.

But I dont like that fact that it can take up to 6 weeks to kick in.
It´s not that I am inpatient or anything, it´s just... During half the cycle I will not make any gains? That sucks. 6 weeks before I can be 100% sure the stuff I use is legit?

Is it really that bad if I decide to go with sust E3D instead for my first cycle?

I will use 20mg nolva ED because I think im prone of getting gyno, my nipples allready are "puffy"(from time to time, actually). I will run the cycle for 12 weeks.

bro if this is ur first cycle u will still maske gaines on single long ester like enth in the first 6 weeks trust me it just doesnt kick in fully for the first 5 or so weeks
either or give us some stats so we can better help u to acheive ur goals

[jckei]

bro if this is ur first cycle u will still maske gaines on single long ester like enth in the first 6 weeks trust me it just doesnt kick in fully for the first 5 or so weeks
either or give us some stats so we can better help u to acheive ur goals

Thanks for the input.
Im 21 years, 6.3", 215 pounds. edit: Bodyfat is low.

So, I will make some gains the first half of the cycle with test E?
Still, wouldn´t it be better to run sust since im "only" running the cycle for 12 weeks?

Keep in mind I have no practial experience with syringes or vials - Is it possible to inject only a half ML of sustanon250 EOD?
That way I wouldnt get up in high doses, wich is the main concern of sust for beginners, right?

[STEROIDZZ]

Everyone is different man, it could kick in on the 2nd week for you , and the 8 week for me, it just varys from person. I believe yous hould hit the test eth or cyp, and stay away from sustanon until you have some experience under your belt. Sustanon should be shot ed or eod. With your lack of experience with needles and vials , i believe this is another hint that you should stick to a single ester such as test eth , 2 shots a week. And yes you will see great gains from test alone on your first cycle. Stay away from sustanon for now! Although some people might not agree with what im about to say, and say 1st cycle= test alone i belive its ok to use a kickstarter such as dbol. Using dbol for the first 4 wks will give you a great boost and blow you up within days, and hopefully by the 4th week the test would kick in and take over, but this would be the solution to you worrying about test kicking in late.

[V_Vandetta]

I know most people recommend test E as a first cycle.

But I dont like that fact that it can take up to 6 weeks to kick in.
It´s not that I am inpatient or anything, it´s just... During half the cycle I will not make any gains? That sucks. 6 weeks before I can be 100% sure the stuff I use is legit?

Is it really that bad if I decide to go with sust E3D instead for my first cycle?

I will use 20mg nolva ED because I think im prone of getting gyno, my nipples allready are "puffy"(from time to time, actually). I will run the cycle for 12 weeks.

here is some food for thought... Sus has 4 estors .. one being prop (Fast acting) at 30mg and I would not expect to see and real magic untill week 3-4 Also on SUS....as said test E or C is a good frist cycle and it's not written in stone that 6weeks is when Its in full swing.... as said it will differ from person to person IMO you will start feeling the pumps by the end of week 2 in to 3 ... If i were you i would stop looking for the QUICK ness of the compound and be more concernd about FOOD and a good PCT .... either way if diet is in check and training you will grow ...

Good luck

[jckei]

Thanks guys. Nice to hear what you guys have to say. Since you hold alot of experience, im convinced.

I will go with Test E 500mg/week and perhaps some dbol to kickstart like STEROIDZZ suggested (I also know ppl have diffrent opinois about this, and I will think it thru) and run 15-20mg nolva ED during the cycle.

Still a week until I start the cycle. Arraving in Bangkok where im doing the cycle in a few days.. Can´t wait!

The goal with the cycle is of course to add mass. I was first thinking of doing a primo only cycle with the same goal - add mass.

But since im only getting one "first cycle" in a lifetime I was thinking I might as well do testo now and primo later, probably better from a strategic point of view...(?)

[STEROIDZZ]

Glad to see your listening man, and I wish you best of luck, eat good, train hard and you will see great gains with test