winny questions

**nrobleski** · 10-11-2006, 11:48 AM

just came off of clomid followng a test and tren cycle and now am in the cutting process, yet as per sual losing some of hard earned gains. I am considering running winstrol alone now, just wondering
- is winny alright to run without test?
- will I gain or will winny help retain my muscle?
- how is it for losing fat as opposed to just hardening...

to sum it up just wondering if its a good idea as its readily available and I am tired of seeing my gains fall away here and have anohter 26 weeks b4 I can cycle with test ect again..any help would be greatly appreciated thanks

**1buffsob** · 10-11-2006, 11:55 AM

Fix your diet. Sounds like you need to be off gear for a while man.

**Surfstud18** · 10-11-2006, 11:56 AM

I think you should get on anavar instead it will cut you up and the gains from the anavar aren't as much but you keep everything and don't need a pct for it

**Surfstud18** · 10-11-2006, 11:58 AM

I don't even think you would have to wait a long time before jumping on a cycle agian. I think you can jump on some sust250. Edit your pct and diet and get huge. Pct I personal hate clomid ewww lol I use letro while i'm on the cycle just cause i need it. Then I use novla and tongkat and keep almost all my gains

**Surfstud18** · 10-11-2006, 11:59 AM

I say within a couple months you can get your blood check out. "Checking kidney and liver" If it all looks good you can start up agian. What's your cycle history? Diet, stats. pct history?

**1buffsob** · 10-11-2006, 12:22 PM

Why are you giving this advice surf? The man has been on cycle since mid may and is just finishing PCT. Why in the world would you recommend he jump back on? That's horrible advice. Please, for the sake of the members, don't give such poor and wreckless advice.

**Surfstud18** · 10-11-2006, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

Why are you giving this advice surf? The man has been on cycle since mid may and is just finishing PCT. Why in the world would you recommend he jump back on? That's horrible advice. Please, for the sake of the members, don't give such poor and wreckless advice.

Umm how about, there's nothing above posted saying i've been on a cycle sence mid May. Elaborate for me personal, if your liver and kidneys come back to normal give it 3 months pct is down everything is back to normal why it's such poor and wreckless advice to not get back on. Maybe i'm missing something

**1buffsob** · 10-11-2006, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Surfstud18

Umm how about, there's nothing above posted saying i've been on a cycle sence mid May. Elaborate for me personal, if your liver and kidneys come back to normal give it 3 months pct is down everything is back to normal why it's such poor and wreckless advice to not get back on. Maybe i'm missing something

I didn't say you've been on since mid May, I said nrobleski has been on since mid May. You know, the guy who started the thread.

You didn't know that, yet gave advice anyway. I consider that wreckless. And just because your liver and kidney values check out, does not mean you should start another cycle.

**nrobleski** · 10-11-2006, 04:13 PM

so you think i should avoid the winny...what about bridging its done all the time, winny shouldnt effect my test levels too much,

**Surfstud18** · 10-11-2006, 04:47 PM

Okay meent to say "His been on a cycle sence mid may" Just because your freaking know that doesn't mean i do because it's NO WHERE POSTED HERE. Your advice is different then mine that's why he's here. I say if everything checks out your fine. 1buffsob thinks different research it and let us both know what you found

**doctadank** · 10-11-2006, 05:13 PM

surf your not that smart, because anavar is suppresive. thats a myth, any and every aas will suppress(shutdown) you its just a matter of how badly.

**Surfstud18** · 10-11-2006, 05:39 PM

umm duhhh Anavar , used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used.

**Surfstud18** · 10-11-2006, 05:42 PM

I know a lot of dudes that 'bridge' with anavar and retain a significant more amount of muscle than without noticable fat loss.

I know, I know ANY anabolic steroids will cause suppression to a degree. But that's not completely the point... With low doses of anavar it seems possible to nearly fully recover provided that you are hitting the clomid and nolvadex , etc. etc.

it seems like a win - win

**Surfstud18** · 10-11-2006, 05:43 PM

But like you guys said i'm not that smart so i'll just say sorry for all my stupid info and sorry if i offended you guys. I just don't really understand why you have to come out and just start bitching instead of just explaining. Whatever