Tren and DNP.

[1buffsob]

I have a friend who's used both seperately. He's the only guy I've seen use DNP at 500mg (crystal version) and not experience any of the horrific sides. No tren sides either cept for some insomnia. Anyway, he's at the end of his tren E/ test E cycle. Has 4 weeks left. Made some awesome gains. 5' 8" 238lbs 14%bf. He's wanting to run a DNP cycle now before he gets to PCT. Now, regardless of how right or wrong this thinking is, I was wondering if anybody has actually ever done this. DNP + Tren. He's doing 600mg of tren EW, and planning on doing 500mg DNP ed for 10 days. I've never used DNP, but I think he's nuts.

Is this suicide, or is he actually going to be leaner than me when all said and done?

[V_Vandetta]

I have a friend who's used both seperately. He's the only guy I've seen use DNP at 500mg (crystal version) and not experience any of the horrific sides. No tren sides either cept for some insomnia. Anyway, he's at the end of his tren E/ test E cycle. Has 4 weeks left. Made some awesome gains. 5' 8" 238lbs 14%bf. He's wanting to run a DNP cycle now before he gets to PCT. Now, regardless of how right or wrong this thinking is, I was wondering if anybody has actually ever done this. DNP + Tren. He's doing 600mg of tren EW, and planning on doing 500mg DNP ed for 10 days. I've never used DNP, but I think he's nuts.

Is this suicide, or is he actually going to be leaner than me when all said and done?

It's not crazy at all.. I have run plenty of DNp cycles tail end of a bulking cycle .. with great results and that was using the powder version ( which was nasty) I think there was a few times I ran the DNP with tren I would have to check my logs .. but if memory serves me right... it didnt make the tren any worse .. meaning I dont get tren sides ( well at high dose got a few ) but none the less if he is having no problems with the tren NOW than when he runs the DNP it will not bring them on.... Also it's not so easy to run DNP tail end with diet restrictions it takes some serious dieting knowledge and knowing your body ... But if done right you can walk away from a bulking cycle and look GREAT pretty massive AND VERY LEAN .... also PCt is a bit of a challange ... the first time I tryed this I had a good bro that helped and got through with most of all my gains with droping 14 pounds of body fat but total loss was 25 pounds 14 fat 6 water 5 pounds muscle .. Now how close this is Not sure But IT DID WORk ... bUT VERY VERY TRICKY

[1buffsob]

Thanks for the info man. I need to give DNP a try after my next cycle. Looks like fun.

[Giants11]

Buff,

One thing. He did not run 500mg ED of DNP. He ran 400mg, the caps (the ones I htink he got) are 250mg because the sodium salt (what makes it crystal) weighs in at about 50mg. Therefore the dose would be 400mg.

As for combining the two, that would be one sick fat loss stack for sure. However the night sweats could get real real bad

[1buffsob]

Buff,

One thing. He did not run 500mg ED of DNP. He ran 400mg, the caps (the ones I htink he got) are 250mg because the sodium salt (what makes it crystal) weighs in at about 50mg. Therefore the dose would be 400mg.

As for combining the two, that would be one sick fat loss stack for sure. However the night sweats could get real real bad

Yeah, I think that's why "you know who" bumped the dosage up to 250mg each, to account for the sodium salt in the crystal version. But still, I think the crystal is better. This guy ran 400mg of powder a couple years back and said the sides were horrific. I haven't ran either, so I can't comment.

Yeah, I'm thinking the fat loss will be pretty nuts with the tren. I think if he added some IGF, it would probably be the ultimate fat loss stack. I'll try it after my next bulk and let you all know.

[Giants11]

Yeah, I think that's why "you know who" bumped the dosage up to 250mg each, to account for the sodium salt in the crystal version. But still, I think the crystal is better. This guy ran 400mg of powder a couple years back and said the sides were horrific. I haven't ran either, so I can't comment.

Yeah, I'm thinking the fat loss will be pretty nuts with the tren. I think if he added some IGF, it would probably be the ultimate fat loss stack. I'll try it after my next bulk and let you all know.

You do that.

I can attest for the sides being minimal but I'm really not sure there is a difference between the two. Which is the one thing that concerns me.

In theory there really should be no difference at all, they both should accompish the same thing. So why one would be side effect free, kinda confuses me to a point.

[1buffsob]

You do that.

I can attest for the sides being minimal but I'm really not sure there is a difference between the two. Which is the one thing that concerns me.

In theory there really should be no difference at all, they both should accompish the same thing. So why one would be side effect free, kinda confuses me to a point.

I'm not sure. I think that this guy has a rep for a low side effect DNP because of all the supps he puts in his caps. I've never seen a powder source do that.

[Giants11]

I'm not sure. I think that this guy has a rep for a low side effect DNP because of all the supps he puts in his caps. I've never seen a powder source do that.

There are some outstanding questions regarding that. For sure....

Also, from what I understand, the supps really shouldn't do all that much at all.

[1buffsob]

There are some outstanding questions regarding that. For sure....

Also, from what I understand, the supps really shouldn't do all that much at all.

Hmmm. I think a lot of people go overboard with the supps. But some swear by it. I don't know. I'll have to try it.

Someone send me powder caps that I'll try supp free, and the I'll try some of the crystal stuff with the supps. I'll get to the bottom of this, no sweat. Well.... some sweat.

[1buffsob]

Update:

Friend is doing real well. Day 6 and down to 226lbs. A lot is from carb depletion and change in diet, but he's lost quite a bit of fat. Sides have been minimal so far. Just began getting some decent night sweats and a sore throat. Still, nothing unbearable. Holding a bit of water as well, but the outline of abs are showing.

I have him doing cardio as well, minimal training at 3 times a week. So far, so good.