Cutting On Dbol

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-11-2006, 07:21 PM

Who here has done this effectively?

What dosage did you find best, thats not overkill and causes excess bloat?

Did you run an AI during?

What did you think about it?

Any other input on cutting/lean gains on any bulking aas feel free to add.

**V_Vandetta** · 10-11-2006, 07:34 PM

Id like to hear this ? never heard of cutting on Dbol .. But learn somthing new every day

**Hunter** · 10-11-2006, 07:36 PM

I would run an A.I to keep the bloat down and maybe at a lower dose again for bloat but I would not run d-bol in a cutting cycle but it can be done becouse you know that cutting has to do more with diet, what else are you running in your cutting cycle

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-11-2006, 07:42 PM

AAS like anavar , winstrol , etc Produced Lean muscle gains but not much. Steroids are used to gain muscle , and depending on goals is where bulking or cutting come into play. So why pay higher prices for milder aas such as anavar and primo to cut? Cutting mostly comes down to diet/cardio in the end. AAS do not strip fat off you , except for a few exceptions....But other than that, what about running stronger compounds like Dbol , Drol, Test, Deca while cutting? You would gain more LBM then on a Var, Primo, Test cycle thats for sure. Bloat Bloat Bloat! Not fat but can lead to it, AI TiME!

WHo's done it with good results post your cycle here!

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-11-2006, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

I would run an A.I to keep the bloat down and maybe at a lower dose again for bloat but I would not run d-bol in a cutting cycle but it can be done becouse you know that cutting has to do more with diet, what else are you running in your cutting cycle

Right on, diet is #1.
Not running a cycle, am just curious to who here does this and how their gains have been , and how they did it.

**V_Vandetta** · 10-11-2006, 07:50 PM

Ok I got ya ... LOL I might need glasses ... as far as cutting with componds I have used test E @ 400mg a week with EQ and winny and from memory there was some water BUT DIDNT HAVE ADEX LETRO BACK THAN but even So I liked it ... some times you get brain washed with compounds... I dropped a good amount of Body fat ... But where I thing I had the problem was after I stopped the cycle ... when the water dropped off i looked really flat not good volume ... But that was so long ago ... bro and My money was On my diet ... but yes i did run Test E in a cutter... but like I said I been brain washed with compounds

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-11-2006, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

Ok I got ya ... LOL I might need glasses ... as far as cutting with componds I have used test E @ 400mg a week with EQ and winny and from memory there was some water BUT DIDNT HAVE ADEX LETRO BACK THAN but even So I liked it ... some times you get brain washed with compounds... I dropped a good amount of Body fat ... But where I thing I had the problem was after I stopped the cycle ... when the water dropped off i looked really flat not good volume ... But that was so long ago ... bro and My money was On my diet ... but yes i did run Test E in a cutter... but like I said I been brain washed with compounds

Test/Eq/winstrol sounds like a good cutting cycle. What if you switched Eq with Deca & winstrol with drol or dbol , and ran an AI? With the diet being spot on! I would think that would turn out to add more solid lean gains than Test/Eq/winny, and still lose BF. Dont you think?

**V_Vandetta** · 10-11-2006, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Test/Eq/winstrol sounds like a good cutting cycle. What if you switched Eq with Deca & winstrol with drol or dbol, and ran an AI? With the diet being spot on! I would think that would turn out to add more solid lean gains than Test/Eq/winny, and still lose BF. Dont you think?

i think that it would depend On many factors ... to be honest Deca IMO would not be a good cutting compound At least for me .. also keep in mind that even with an AI helping keep water off sertin compounds will add volume thus making the body retain water becasue the muscle is 90%water some compounds due to there anaboic ratieos ... casue a change up in electrolyts content thus adding water to the tissue so even taking an AI will help but in the long run not matter.... Now me with the extra weight makes cardieo very hard being winded and with the reduction in diet to cut will stress the the body carring the extra weight thus making it hard ... Now this is just in theory because every one is different and may respond different ... But i see what you are getting at and I have done just that

running a killer bulking cycle and taild END run DNP followed by T-3 at a low dose for 16-20weeks with clen IGF ... and let me just say bulking at 12-13% BF after the DNp cycle sitting around 9% or so .. than the T-3 brought me down 7% than run my cutter and diet dropping under 5

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-11-2006, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

i think that it would depend On many factors ... to be honest Deca IMO would not be a good cutting compound At least for me .. also keep in mind that even with an AI helping keep water off sertin compounds will add volume thus making the body retain water becasue the muscle is 90%water some compounds due to there anaboic ratieos ... casue a change up in electrolyts content thus adding water to the tissue so even taking an AI will help but in the long run not matter....

I agree alot of factors do come into play.
Holding some water on cycle while cutting won't be all that bad, because of the extra strength gains while on a calorie defficient diet. But water and fat are 2 different things, In the end the water will drop off showing underneath what the diet/cardio has actually done. Yeah getting to big does wind ya!

**RobbieG** · 10-11-2006, 08:22 PM

my prop+dbol cycle.. 75 mg ed prop + 20 mg dbol 8 weeks

I did puff upp a lot on cycle, but when I came off I was pretty lean at prolly 6-8 %BF .. I was above 12 ..

now I run prop+winny.. yields better results..

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-11-2006, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by RobbieG

my prop+dbol cycle.. 75 mg ed prop + 20 mg dbol 8 weeks

I did puff upp a lot on cycle, but when I came off I was pretty lean at prolly 6-8 %BF .. I was above 12 ..

now I run prop+winny.. yields better results..

You were 12% BF before cycle and 6-8% after?

If so sounds like pretty good gains.

Did you run a AI or serm during cycle?

**V_Vandetta** · 10-11-2006, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

I agree alot of factors do come into play.
Holding some water on cycle while cutting won't be all that bad, because of the extra strength gains while on a calorie defficient diet. But water and fat are 2 different things, In the end the water will drop off showing underneath what the diet/cardio has actually done. Yeah getting to big does wind ya!

damn bro ... this would put things to the test.. becasue we know diet is everything.. .. why not use the componds that bulk us to cut ? because with diet on key the right cardeio.. the componds making us grow More than The milder ones ... once the cycle ended Thus should put us Bigger and leaner and even with muscle loss WHICH I have yet to keep 100% from cutting or bulking ...

DAMN You LOl marcus got into this hole short cycle thing .. Now I am going to have to try this .. becasue It would make sense ....

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-11-2006, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

damn bro ... this would put things to the test.. becasue we know diet is everything.. .. why not use the componds that bulk us to cut ? because with diet on key the right cardeio.. the componds making us grow More than The milder ones ... once the cycle ended Thus should put us Bigger and leaner and even with muscle loss WHICH I have yet to keep 100% from cutting or bulking ...

DAMN You LOl marcus got into this hole short cycle thing .. Now I am going to have to try this .. becasue It would make sense ....

Exactly what I'm thinking.

**taiboxa** · 10-11-2006, 09:40 PM

i always cut w/ bulkers

and tren but i have cut on dbol , deca , drol, testE and any of the "BLOATERS" effective hell even MORE EFFECTIVELY since they are usually STRONGER which will help prevent catabolism

dbl IMO would be very effective to run for a newbie at 30-50mg ED for 6-8weeks
for advanced users 100mg ED w/ blood work every 6th week

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-11-2006, 10:34 PM

Tai, how do you take your dbol ? All at once or throughout the day at what times?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-12-2006, 10:22 AM

**RobbieG** · 10-12-2006, 10:38 AM

No, I did not use any form of AI.

I think my fat got burned up by the extra muscle I put on and the workouts were much more intens on dbol , so I burned much more calories than I ate.

Dbol feels way to good ...

**Giants11** · 10-12-2006, 10:47 AM

Not to mention Dbol makes you feel damn good.

Its perfect for cuttin, just shed the water afterwards, no big deal.

**DEVLDOG** · 10-12-2006, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

i think that it would depend On many factors ... to be honest Deca IMO would not be a good cutting compound At least for me ..

Remember...sean ray tested positive for deca after a show...deca is a good fat burner...getting ripped is all about DIET.the compound doesnt matter.anything that will stave off a catabolic state will work just fine.

**fLgAtOr** · 10-12-2006, 01:04 PM

What about highly androgenic compounds that are supposed to increase "hardness" and vascularity? Assuming bf% was to remain the same, would these effects remain after stopping the drug?

If it was just water that we were concerned about, would these compounds still have a place?

(..and I'm not referring to preparing for a show)

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-12-2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

Remember...sean ray tested positive for deca after a show...deca is a good fat burner...getting ripped is all about DIET.the compound doesnt matter.anything that will stave off a catabolic state will work just fine.

Just because he tested positive after the show doesn't mean he used it to prepare for it. Remember deca can be shown in tests almost 2 years after its usage. But yes getting ripped is all diet, and i agree with what you said.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-12-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Giants11

Not to mention Dbol makes you feel damn good.

Its perfect for cuttin, just shed the water afterwards, no big deal.

How do you take your dbol, all at once or how split during the day?

I know that DDog said he takes his all early in the day....curious to how others take it and why they think its better.