VAR or TBOL

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 10-13-2006, 02:33 PM

hey bros..I'm researching & trying to get my next cycle together & want to use one oral.I have used var before with good results but with it being so popular, demand & cost is rising(I AM NOT ASKING TO TALK ABOUT PRICE, JUST MAKING A STATEMENT),so I was wondering if Tbol would be a suitable "repalcement" for var or would it be a waste of time being that its a very mild compound. I have never used tbol & was looking to get opinions from guys that have used both & some feedback before I make my next cycle decision. thanks guys

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-13-2006, 02:53 PM

BOTH!

But if only one, I would try tbol this time. I personally like Tbol better than var, but both are pretty mild.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 10-13-2006, 02:59 PM

HeLL ... i have seen them stacked together often.I guess what I was getting @ is if tbol can replace VAR as the oral part of my cycle(just an add on) due the difference in $ .

**frank2738** · 10-13-2006, 03:02 PM

Varrrrrrrrrrrrrr

**FlyByU** · 10-13-2006, 09:08 PM

Var. Tbol shuts you down for too long.

**Standard01** · 10-13-2006, 09:25 PM

Var at high doses is good stuff, T-bol is O.K. if your low on cash, but I'd go with Var. Everyone reacts differently so give em both a try.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-13-2006, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by FlyByU

Var. Tbol shuts you down for too long.

Where do you get your info?

Tbol shuts you down to long???

**eightball17** · 10-13-2006, 09:47 PM

not to post jack, but what about Tbol for women ? Heard of any doing it ??

**fanatic** · 10-13-2006, 10:58 PM

I love var but for the money tbol is better. You won't get as vascular with tbol as u would var though. I've done both and u wont cant go wrong with either one IMO.

**briancb1** · 10-13-2006, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by eightball17

not to post jack, but what about Tbol for women ? Heard of any doing it ??

Yea, the entire East German Womens Olympic team did it in the late 60's and 70's. The east Germans have done more extensive research on steroid use than any other institution to this date! They gave it to all their olympians w/o their knowledge - it was known as the "coache's little blue pill". There is a TON of info out their about Tbol on women, just search google for it.

**jrc163** · 10-14-2006, 07:00 AM

if you shop around you can get var raw for pretty dam cheap, i'm currently in my 3rd week of var at 60mg. ed and starting tbol along with it next week. so far so good, pumps are insane, vascularity is really good over the past week or so. no noticable sides as of yet aside from mild stomach discomfort.

**Tren Bull** · 10-14-2006, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

hey bros..I'm researching & trying to get my next cycle together & want to use one oral.I have used var before with good results but with it being so popular, demand & cost is rising(I AM NOT ASKING TO TALK ABOUT PRICE, JUST MAKING A STATEMENT),so I was wondering if Tbol would be a suitable "repalcement" for var or would it be a waste of time being that its a very mild compound. I have never used tbol & was looking to get opinions from guys that have used both & some feedback before I make my next cycle decision. thanks guys

ive heard that tbol is stronger than anavar , so imo i would go with that instead of anavar

**FlyByU** · 10-15-2006, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Where do you get your info?

Tbol shuts you down to long???

Personal experience & the experience of everyone I know who has used it. Yes, I've read posts here & elsewhere from people who say recovery is easy from tbol but I just wonder how many of them have actually taken it.
Myself & over a dozen other athletes I know have experienced a dramatic drop in strength & libido after discontinuing tbol, even when a perfect PCT is carried out. Chlordehydromethyltestosterone is a highly suppressive compound.

**fanatic** · 10-15-2006, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by FlyByU

Personal experience & the experience of everyone I know who has used it. Yes, I've read posts here & elsewhere from people who say recovery is easy from tbol but I just wonder how many of them have actually taken it.
Myself & over a dozen other athletes I know have experienced a dramatic drop in strength & libido after discontinuing tbol, even when a perfect PCT is carried out. Chlordehydromethyltestosterone is a highly suppressive compound.

Tbol didn't seem to suppress me at all... but then again i did run hcg throughout. I think most people's stance is that it is LESS suppressive than other compounds. Even an OTC test booster can be suppressive, it just depends on the person.

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 10-15-2006, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Standard01

Var at high doses is good stuff, T-bol is O.K. if your low on cash, but I'd go with Var. Everyone reacts differently so give em both a try.

not low on cash....I figured I havent tried tbol myself...& var is pricey like I said... I'm always looking to save money & if tbol can/will give me "similar" results...then I'll go with tbol & give it a shot w my next cycle.

**Swifto** · 10-15-2006, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by FlyByU

Personal experience & the experience of everyone I know who has used it. Yes, I've read posts here & elsewhere from people who say recovery is easy from tbol but I just wonder how many of them have actually taken it.
Myself & over a dozen other athletes I know have experienced a dramatic drop in strength & libido after discontinuing tbol, even when a perfect PCT is carried out. Chlordehydromethyltestosterone is a highly suppressive compound.

I completely disagree.

Its not a "highly suppressive" at all. It lacks any estrogenic and progestenic component. Its chemicl structure is almost the same as Dbol 's. Apart from the 4-chloro alteration, its Dianabol . There are studies done on Dbol on 100mg/ED for 5-6 weeks showing the % decrease in T/LH/FSH their not huge decreases by all means.

Obviously this varies from person to person.

Though, I dont see how Tbol can cause total HPTA "shutdown", just inhibition. If not run at massive doses or for prolonged peroids.