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    shawn9811 is offline New Member
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    Exclamation Experience Lifter Amatuer User - Help

    Ive been lifting for the past 5 years and i am thoroughly convinced i need that little extra help. Ive never taken any steroids before and would like some advice. I understand the risk to reward aswell. I am looking for something that will put on muscle that i can sustain later on without the drug. At this point im not looking to stack. Ive been told winstrol or d-bol would be good to start off with, and also what would i need to take (if any) to combat liver damage and gyno?

    Thanks

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    Stats?

    Age/Bf%/Height/weight/

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    shawn9811 is offline New Member
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    22, 5'10 6% bf, 160 lbs -i would like to hit 175-180 lbs

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    help!

    would like some advice thanks

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    Bigmax is offline Retired VET~ If you dont know... ask me
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    Bro,I would recommend getting a better base BEFORE you start using anything...160 is pretty light....you may need to check into your nutrition and see where thats at ...Lets try and bring your weight up before anything.

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    agreed. At 160 you should be able to gain with a solid bulking diet.

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    shawn9811 is offline New Member
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    i eat tons, not extrememly healthy, but tons of calories and cant seem to put on any weight - i eat around 800 calories right before i go to sleep just to help add the weight

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    shawn9811 is offline New Member
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    also if you wouldnt mind giving me a good pre and post workout mean and approx. times

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    Bro there's a ton of phenominal information so do a quick search and you'll find what you need. Here is a start for you: UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

    At 22 yo you'll be amazed by the results when you get your diet in check. I wouldn't even think of the "extra help" for another 4-5 years.

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