Are steroids that harmful?

[maxyogurt]

I keep hearing of hardening arteries, hairloss, impotence, etc...

I have also read that this is false, besides the hairloss part. That steroids have not been connected to any long term health conditions, or death. But then I look at Arnold who had heart surgery i think... what happened there.

I am just looking for more info on them. I am 18 myself and will not think about taking steroids until i am like 22. But otherwise, if you take safe doses of steroids and do not abuse tehm will you live a normal healthy life? will you grow into your 80's? by then will your test be like a 12yr old girl's? What are your opinions? many thanks.

[fLgAtOr]

http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv

Here's a video you can watch...Actually you may have already seen it.

Bro side effects are very real...There is always some kind of sacrafice. However, most aren't permanent and many can be minimized with the proper knowledge.

[stupidhippo]

yeah there are definetly risks involved... with proper safety precautions (like BW and proper use of compunds, cardio , diet etc...) the risks can be minimized. My guess is that when taken care of these things cycling is realtively safe, but not completely risk-free.

[Jsik98]

I think the severity of side effects are dependent on your individual genetics....Some people are at higher risks for certain sides than others...As far as Arnold goes, that dude used to do sh-t like go into the woods w/ his boys, bring a keg, and just do squats and drink beer all night....or go to the public pool and workout all day long....What I'm saying is, lifting heavy weights puts stress on your heart, and when you push yourself that hard for many, many years you can expect your heart to take some damage....not to say you can't help prevent certain problems with proper diet, cardio, methyyl donors, getting blood work done and what not....but notice how he has NO liver probs, or any other probs for that matter! And in his day D-bol, test, and growth were the main compounds. Anh we're talking over 20 years of this sh-t!! So relatively speaking, I think most of us will be just fine b/c of the level we do this sh-t at...you know what I mean? Take it to a crazy level and you increase your risks....

[Haro3]

yeah there are definetly risks involved... with proper safety precautions (like BW and proper use of compunds, cardio , diet etc...) the risks can be minimized. My guess is that when taken care of these things cycling is realtively safe, but not completely risk-free.

agreed... they can be harmful in exrteme amounts, or prolonged usage. they do have side effects with any drug comes side effects but dont take what the media says as a reliable source of steroid info (assuming you are new to the game and know very little) they will distort steroids to be "Horrible" etc. but in all reality when done properly, moderate dosages, healthy diet, and the correct supplementation and precautions i dont feel steroids are really all that harmfull...just make sure you read, read some more, then read it all over again. before you decide on anything. you can never know to much about what your going to do to your body and this site has alot of good info so be sure to really be informed on the drugs before using them.

[jkilla13]

I think the severity of side effects are dependent on your individual genetics....Some people are at higher risks for certain sides than others...As far as Arnold goes, that dude used to do sh-t like go into the woods w/ his boys, bring a keg, and just do squats and drink beer all night....or go to the public pool and workout all day long....What I'm saying is, lifting heavy weights puts stress on your heart, and when you push yourself that hard for many, many years you can expect your heart to take some damage....not to say you can't help prevent certain problems with proper diet, cardio, methyyl donors, getting blood work done and what not....but notice how he has NO liver probs, or any other probs for that matter! And in his day D-bol, test, and growth were the main compounds. Anh we're talking over 20 years of this sh-t!! So relatively speaking, I think most of us will be just fine b/c of the level we do this sh-t at...you know what I mean? Take it to a crazy level and you increase your risks....

Agree, Arnold himself said that he use to take D-bol by the handful everyday, plus these guys were cruising year round and also not performing proper pct due to lack of knowledge in this matter

[Swifto]

There are risks and side effects, short and long term, yes. This is why bloodwork is imperitive IMHO.

[SVTMuscle*]

There are risks in everything. Driving cars, taking tylenol, walking at night, anything.
None of those get you huge.

[Hellmaskbanned]

There are risks in everything. Driving cars, taking tylenol, walking at night, anything.
None of those get you huge.

I like your style.

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[Leader05]

This is a great video link.. thanks for sharing

http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv

Here's a video you can watch...Actually you may have already seen it.

Bro side effects are very real...There is always some kind of sacrafice. However, most aren't permanent and many can be minimized with the proper knowledge.

[SVTMuscle*]

I like your style.

well i mean, fuk it, now-a-days it seems everything is killing us, giving us cancer, or hurting the enviroment, so we're all gonna die, apparently tomorrow according to the media.

we're all gonna die, at least we'll be buried in big fukin boxes!

[Kale]

http://www.steroid.com/side.php

Thats an excellent insight !!!!

[peteroy01]

lmao

[mateo112]

very informative video. very very very little information taking our side of the argument like that. we need more creditable people doing that.

[Knockout_Power]

the only reason these substances are illegal is not their potential harmful effects, it is because there is no real way to set up a system to tax the sale of them like alcohol, cigarette's, women drivers (kidding) which will all kill you a hell of a lot faster and ruin your life substantially more along the way.

Sure there are deaths resulting DIRECTLY from steroid misuse, but I would love the annual reports on how many people die from drunk drivers vs. the latter. But hey, here in Canada (cant speak for the US), 70% of the price of a bottle of booze is taxes. Hard to take that away from the powers that be.

Then again, maybe I am just a bitter person and full of shite...

[juicejunkie2]

the only reason these substances are illegal is not their potential harmful effects, it is because there is no real way to set up a system to tax the sale of them like alcohol, cigarette's, women drivers (kidding) which will all kill you a hell of a lot faster and ruin your life substantially more along the way.

Sure there are deaths resulting DIRECTLY from steroid misuse, but I would love the annual reports on how many people die from drunk drivers vs. the latter. But hey, here in Canada (cant speak for the US), 70% of the price of a bottle of booze is taxes. Hard to take that away from the powers that be.

Then again, maybe I am just a bitter person and full of shite...

These are called drugs for a reason ... they alter the natural body in ways .. some good and some bad so as someone above mentioned .. blood work is very important and so is proper knowledge of what you're putting in your body and how it effects it .. even if it's a cheeseburger.

[Corcaigh]

Let's face it, yes there are dangers, period! The extent of the danger is dependent on what you take, how much of it you take, how you react to it as an individual and then there's the difference between use and abuse! I'm not moralizing about this (if I was what the hell would I be doing here), but if you decide to go this route you should be honest with yourself and realise that you are not taking paracetamol for a headache here! But in fairness to you, you are taking the time to educate yourself and researching early, by the time you plan to use you'll have 4 more years training under your belt and will be far more informed due to your research so well done for not rushing yourself and doing some research on this. It's an individual choice for everyone and you'll make up your own mind, but be careful not to convince yourself of an answer that you are looking for to begin. If you want someone to tell you that it's risk free, you'll find pelnty of people to do so but they'll be misleading you. Similarly if you want to hear that it will give you small nuts, make you bald, give you heart problems at 40, you'll find those answers too. People react differently, that's part of why this board exists to give you a full overview of how other people go on and the problems/successes they had, so you can educate yourself and make your own decision with some straight feedback from many sources of differing experiences. So keep researching my friend, education is your best method of keeping this as safe as possible.

As for Arnie, who knows, maybe you can blame the drugs themselevs or maybe it's his lifestyle of booze, cigars etc or maybe it's his genes. I suspect that most competitive bodybuilders at that level have trained so hard and carried so much mass for so long, of course the heart will suffer, same as a really fat guy had heart problems as he gets older due to carrying that weight for so long. But you know what, the point is that nobody knows, but when it happens to him, he's an easy target for everyone to say it was the drugs. Do your research and if you decide to do this in 4yrs, do it as safely as you can.

Sorry everyone, I forgot to hit the "Off" button during that rant!

[redwizza]

i think....as proven by romano in the video...that the most harmful effect of steroids on humans is the false sense of self!! i mean my jesus WOW, does he not realise he does not have much muscles on himself....and he has been doing it for TWENTY or more years he says!!!!!!!! why why why why why why why why why why why why why why oh why why why!???

[marcus300]

There are risks and health issues which should all be considered before considering taking steriods, you will always hear both sides of this debate but its down the the individual and how he responds and how safe he use's the AAS,

[Corcaigh]

diet, training, proper cycling.........

As Muhammad Ali once said............. The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses - behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights.

[Property of Steroid.com]

There are risks and health issues which should all be considered before considering taking steriods, you will always hear both sides of this debate but its down the the individual and how he responds and how safe he use's the AAS,

Take out the word "steroids" and put in the word "Alcohol" or "tobaccoo" or "Firearms" or "*Edited*" or "whatever"....and you get the same result...the fact of the matter is that safe and responsible adults do safe and responsible things, while other people do otherwise, and a given topic should be judged by what safe and responsible people do with it, not with how it's abused by people who aren't responsible.

[juicejunkie2]

Take out the word "steroids" and put in the word "Alcohol" or "tobaccoo" or "Firearms" or "*Edited*" or "whatever"....and you get the same result...the fact of the matter is that safe and responsible adults do safe and responsible things, while other people do otherwise, and a given topic should be judged by what safe and responsible people do with it, not with how it's abused by people who aren't responsible.

Preach on brotha .. Amen

[deznuts]

Steroids may be safe for some people but one side affect that cannot be stopped is the dramatic proliferation of cancer cells when someone is on gear. Basically, if you had cancer cells and got on a cycle, the cancer would grow extremely fast. I think that is the worst side effect.

[fLgAtOr]

Steroids may be safe for some people but one side affect that cannot be stopped is the dramatic proliferation of cancer cells when someone is on gear. Basically, if you had cancer cells and got on a cycle, the cancer would grow extremely fast. I think that is the worst side effect.

Says who?

[stupidhippo]

yeah.. very uneducated answer.... Only some prostate cancers are dependant on testosterone for growth, and even then the situation aint that simple...

[*Narkissos*]

Steroids may be safe for some people but one side affect that cannot be stopped is the dramatic proliferation of cancer cells when someone is on gear. Basically, if you had cancer cells and got on a cycle, the cancer would grow extremely fast. I think that is the worst side effect.

Blanket statement...and incorrect

GH/IGF maybe.. AAS (with regard to non-testosterone-dependant growths)?

Nah.

[TinTin78]

The most dangerous thing about it is the depression they can start. When you see your muscles dissapear after and you want to keep it and you go again, and you get depressed when your hair falls out and I promise you that all the deaths on steroids are from suicide. But we will never know because they will always be classified as suicide, but alot of people take their lifes after use of it. There was a study in Sweden and alot of those that had used steroids took their lifes. You can get very sad and depressed after, like there is nothing left in the world to live for. I have been there and felt it so I know how tough it can be on your mind.

[maxyogurt]

Wow! I really appreciate all the comments and links. I will probably take steroids in a couple years. Seems really tempting, and we are all going to die anyways so why not live the way you want too? Could die tomorrow in a car, who knows?

[fLgAtOr]

Wow! I really appreciate all the comments and links. I will probably take steroids in a couple years. Seems really tempting, and we are all going to die anyways so why not live the way you want too? Could die tomorrow in a car, who knows?

Cute. But wrong attitude.

Spend your time now researching all the information that can help you live this lifestyle in a safe and healthy way.