Sustanon, and Deca, or Deca, and D-Bol?

**Black Stang** · 10-25-2001, 12:13 PM

Which stack would be best for an 8 week cycle? D-Bol, and Deca , or Sustanon , and Deca? I want strength, and mass.

**Pete235** · 10-25-2001, 12:20 PM

All three together would be your best bet.
Run deca @ 400-600mg/week
sust250 @ 500mg/week
d-bol @ 30-35mg/day for weeks 1-4.
If not I would go with deca/sust.
Make sure you have clomid post cycle and nolvadex on hand.

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**bigkev** · 10-25-2001, 01:34 PM

all 3 would definately be the best scenario. but if you are going to do only 2, go with sust and dbol . excellant mass stack there.

**dumbells101** · 10-25-2001, 02:15 PM

Hey Black Stang What's your training experience and how old are you? Just curious to see if you've exhausted all natural training attempts and supplements for mass. Don't want to sell yourself short you know.

**Pete235** · 10-25-2001, 02:17 PM

Good call DB...I don't usually miss those. My bad

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**dumbells101** · 10-25-2001, 02:20 PM

Pete...you, bad, no bro we all watch out for each other.

**dane26** · 10-25-2001, 04:05 PM

pete, you usually catch those!!!

i agree with boys. do all three if you can..if only two, sus and dbol .

**bigkev** · 10-25-2001, 09:00 PM

what is your cycle history bro? you really should exhaust all natural avenues 1st.

**Iwan2bsolid2** · 10-25-2001, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by bigkev
what is your cycle history bro? you really should exhaust all natural avenues 1st.

good advice BIGKEV

, and Welcome aboard you seem to know your shit, always nice to have good advice.

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**Black Stang** · 10-26-2001, 01:58 AM

Well, I'm 25 to answer one question. I used Anadrol 50 once for 6 weeks, but that has been about two years ago. It was a bad choice, cause although it works great, you loose alot of the gains. Wish I knew about this forum then.
I have to narrow the stack down to two though because of the money.

If I had enough money, I'd be stacking everything I could get my hands on

All of this is good info though, thanks guys.

**pureanger** · 10-26-2001, 02:01 AM

depends on what your looking for. try sust and deca
8-12 weeks long
500mg per week off sust
400mg per week of deca
maybe if you can afford it the first four weeks dbal at 50mg per day

**bigkev** · 10-26-2001, 02:07 AM

go with the sust and dbol bro, you,ll love the results. i am not a huge fan of a50, i like dbol, not to knock a50 , the shit works great, it just makes me feel like crap. save that for later when you need something stronger. taking a50 when you are brandnew to gear is equivelant to taking morphine for a simple headache. why take morphine when tylenol will do? keep us posted bro! peace

**dane26** · 10-26-2001, 05:36 PM

ah big kev. i'm with ya on the sus and dbol . i love sus, but i'm a minority

**Black Stang** · 10-27-2001, 12:25 AM

I'm going to have to wait now for about 2 weeks for the goods to get here. I already have the needles I'm going to use, but I have a question. The needles I have are 23 gauge, 1.5 inch. I read in the injection 101 section that if you inject in your leg, they recommend a 1 inch needle. Can I still use the needles I have? I'll probley want to use differant locations for injections, so I need to know if it's safe. I just want to get it all right before I even start.

**juiceon** · 10-27-2001, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by Black Stang
The needles I have are 23 gauge, 1.5 inch. I read in the injection 101 section that if you inject in your leg, they recommend a 1 inch needle. Can I still use the needles I have? I'll probley want to use differant locations for injections, so I need to know if it's safe. I just want to get it all right before I even start.

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**PaPaPumP** · 10-27-2001, 12:43 AM

'im lovin it J.O.

**bigkev** · 10-27-2001, 12:55 AM

1.5s are fine bro, unless you have really skinny legs, really skinny.

i use 1 inch myself and recomend them for you also. but since you have the 1.5s, use them, they are fine. 23g is the right size also, the less pain the better.

**dane26** · 10-27-2001, 09:19 AM

good analogy juice on!

**Black Stang** · 10-27-2001, 09:26 PM

I think I'm almost set now, only problem is I can't stand having to wait for it to get here. Do I really need Nolvadex with this cycle? I just read in the steroid pic. forum where one guy got gyno from Deca . Or was he just over doing it?

I'll probley keep my Sustanon shots at just 250mg this first cycle since I have not used much before. Same with Deca - 200mg per week.
I know alot of ya'll called for Sus. and D-bol, but I decided on Sustanon, and Deca for one reason. I read up on the Steroid effectiveness section, and the gains you get with Deca last longer than D-bol. But I promiss I will add D-bol to my next stack guys.
This is what it looks like for my first cycle.
250 mg Sus. per week-8 weeks
200 mg Deca per week-8 weeks
Should I take both shots on the same day each week? Or should I put a couple of days in-between them?

**kizer_soce** · 10-27-2001, 09:32 PM

1/2cc of each twice a week to get the dose you are looking for.

Also yeah definitely get the nolva to keep on hand, some people are predisposed to getting gyno you don't want to find out the hard way.

**4plates** · 10-28-2001, 11:47 AM

250 sus and 200 deca
i wouldnt even waist the gear.
but to each his own.
as for the 1.5 in pins in the quad take the sheething off the needle and cut it to 1 inch and put it back over the needle tjhis way you wont move it around too much while trying to push out the juice.and wont irratate the area so much