Seriously Need Help Emergency Bound

**speedtraining** · 10-20-2006, 09:26 AM

I did a injection as normal on Monday like I always do, the ethante i've been using has been painful, it was a 1.5ml injection Monday 450mg of Ethante. Wed, Thurs, and Fri I've had a fever been unable to sleep, hot and cold sweats at night, and the area is extremly painful. I've deicded to call my doctor and get help, what I told the nurse is I injected 2ml 2000mcg of b12 and this caused the problem.

Do you guys think I should tell my doctor when I'm one on one will this change the method he is using to fix this problem, or should I stick with the b12 story, i'm failrly worried about this normally I wouldn't go to the doctor. The redness is not subsiding and the pain is not reducing, i've tried ice and Ibprofien. Please provide some insight if you can bro's thanks.

Speed.

BG · 10-20-2006, 09:27 AM

Gotta tell the truth.

BG · 10-20-2006, 09:28 AM

Have you ever cycled before??

**stupidhippo** · 10-20-2006, 09:34 AM

well truth would be good but in this case it wont change what he will do... I mean if I understood correctly u have an infection in the injection site, right? what u injected wont change the docs approach but if u live in a country/place where telling the doc could hurt u.. I wouldnt tell then..

**V_Vandetta** · 10-20-2006, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

well truth would be good but in this case it wont change what he will do... I mean if I understood correctly u have an infection in the injection site, right? what u injected wont change the docs approach but if u live in a country/place where telling the doc could hurt u.. I wouldnt tell then..

true the truth would be the best but keep in mind that once the doc puts this in your chart... there could be problems with health insurance carrier.... even life insurance lie if you can get away with it

BG · 10-20-2006, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by V_Vandetta

true the truth would be the best but keep in mind that once the doc puts this in your chart... there could be problems with health insurance carrier.... even life insurance lie if you can get away with it

But he wont be able to help correctly, b12 and oil based test are totaly diffent things. Its like saying you head hurts but you have diarhea.

BG · 10-20-2006, 09:43 AM

Health care carrier, I get blood work once a month because of AAS use through my work insurance. Tons of scripts also, you know how many people are under on provider....10's of million, how are they going to red flagg one juice head.

**stupidhippo** · 10-20-2006, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

But he wont be able to help correctly, b12 and oil based test are totaly diffent things. Its like saying you head hurts but you have diarhea.

its wont make any difference in the treatment.. even if it had something to do with the gear it wont make a difference in the treatment. Also Ive heard of ppl running to problems with getting these things on the record.. Where I live its a lil different but even here (with the new electronic patient history system) every future doc can see ur history. Examlpe : a friend of mine once told that he has used drugs, this was years ago. Now everytime he is sick he is treated like shit at the docs and also in many cases hasnt got the meds he shuld have cause docs think he is a liying drug-addic. he has been clean for years...

**deznuts** · 10-20-2006, 09:51 AM

If the area is warm and red you probably have a bacteria infection that could easily be taken care of wath an antibiotic. I would definetely tell the doctor the truth. It can't hurt. Doctor-patient confidentiallity.

**marcus300** · 10-20-2006, 09:54 AM

Tell the truth and let the doctor do his job

BG · 10-20-2006, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

its wont make any difference in the treatment.. even if it had something to do with the gear it wont make a difference in the treatment. Also Ive heard of ppl running to problems with getting these things on the record.. Where I live its a lil different but even here (with the new electronic patient history system) every future doc can see ur history. Examlpe : a friend of mine once told that he has used drugs, this was years ago. Now everytime he is sick he is treated like shit at the docs and also in many cases hasnt got the meds he shuld have cause docs think he is a liying drug-addic. he has been clean for years...

Drugs abuse and AAS use are not the same. The doctor thinks your friend is looking for drugs, whats he gonna think Speeds looking for some more juice. Tell the truth simple as it is.

**stupidhippo** · 10-20-2006, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by deznuts

If the area is warm and red you probably have a bacteria infection that could easily be taken care of wath an antibiotic. I would definetely tell the doctor the truth. It can't hurt. Doctor-patient confidentiallity.

well in real life it could hurt, seen it happen and heard many many times... I would ponder the situation if I was him... maybe in his case he can do it safely, then its all good... but as for the treatment this information is in this case useless...

**stupidhippo** · 10-20-2006, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Drugs abuse and AAS use are not the same. The doctor thinks your friend is looking for drugs, whats he gonna think Speeds looking for some more juice. Tell the truth simple as it is.

juice is looked at really badly by some doctors..

BG · 10-20-2006, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

juice is looked at really badly by some doctors..

I agree, but doctors are worried more about addicts faking being sick , just to get their next fix.

**Competitive07** · 10-20-2006, 10:13 AM

Just my 2 cents, but before I even started juicing, and I am getting ready for only my 3rd cycle ever 1. I was 32 plus years old 2. I let my doc(who has been my doc for 20 years)know I was going to use Juice, did he agree, no, but I was going to use it regardless and he has come to those terms and he is my doc still and does all my bloodwork, hell even set an appointment up with a nurse to show my wife how to inject safely. I think before anyone starts juicing educate before you medicate. AAS is not like popping some Gaspari products here, this is serious business.

**plenty8** · 10-20-2006, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

I agree, but doctors are worried more about addicts faking being sick , just to get their next fix.

isn't that what we are?

**speedtraining** · 10-20-2006, 10:15 AM

Yes i've cycled before i'd call my self very expierienced at this point, used various substances, always go about things the right way...I don't understand how I could have a bacteria infection because i'm extremly sterile, could it be that the amount of B/A in the solution is simply to high? I'm torn on what to do i'm going to feel out the situation when I speak with him. It is pretty appartent though i'm 243 pounds and shreaded, i'm discontinuing my drol and letro for the day, I realize its in my system but atleast the concentrations will not be as high. I do appreciate everyones help hopefully this will work out quickly.

Thanks.

Speed.

BG · 10-20-2006, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by plenty8

isn't that what we are?

I like to think not

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**speedtraining** · 10-20-2006, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Competitive07

Just my 2 cents, but before I even started juicing, and I am getting ready for only my 3rd cycle ever 1. I was 32 plus years old 2. I let my doc(who has been my doc for 20 years)know I was going to use Juice, did he agree, no, but I was going to use it regardless and he has come to those terms and he is my doc still and does all my bloodwork, hell even set an appointment up with a nurse to show my wife how to inject safely. I think before anyone starts juicing educate before you medicate. AAS is not like popping some Gaspari products here, this is serious business.

Bro don't insult me right now I get blood work done before and after every cycle my values are perfect, this is not a first cycle and I'm I don't need my girl to inject me, thanks for the reminder that this is serious too.

BG · 10-20-2006, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

Bro don't insult me right now I get blood work done before and after every cycle my values are perfect, this is not a first cycle and I'm I don't need my girl to inject me, thanks for the reminder that this is serious too.

Go to your regular doctor then, if you get blood work done then your doctor knows, this isnt making sende anymore.

BG · 10-20-2006, 10:48 AM

You totally condradicted yourself from your first statement.

**speedtraining** · 10-20-2006, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

You totally condradicted yourself from your first statement.

Not at all. I don't have to tell my doctor why I want blood work done I just ask for it to be done, and it is, he may have his own thoughts but he never asked.

**Bigmax** · 10-20-2006, 11:25 AM

How did your bloodwork comeback???..it couldnt have been normal after a cycle bro...So your doc had to address something from your results...As far as your prob...yes go to the doc and tell the truth but it sounds to me like its your gear.

BG · 10-20-2006, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

Not at all. I don't have to tell my doctor why I want blood work done I just ask for it to be done, and it is, he may have his own thoughts but he never asked.

When you ask for liver enzymes, kidney and test levels I think he could put 1 and 2 together, I mean he did go to school for how long????

**Maetenloch** · 10-20-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by deznuts

If the area is warm and red you probably have a bacteria infection that could easily be taken care of wath an antibiotic. I would definetely tell the doctor the truth. It can't hurt. Doctor-patient confidentiallity.

Doctor-patient confidentiality only applies to un-involved third parties. One of the conditions of your health insurance coverage is that they get to see your medical records. If you want something to stay completely confidential, you'll have to pay for it out of your own pocket.

**Uconish** · 10-20-2006, 11:48 PM

this may not have been the smartest thing, but once i had a huge knot develop in my hamstring of all places, which was really wierd because at the time i was doing only glute shots, and i would never imagine shotting hams, anyway, it did not go away amd became red, hot, and tender......i went to the doc, and convinced him it was a bug bite.....he knew it was an infection, and based upon the way i looked, i think he had an idea, but you know what, he didnt even ask, gave me a script for some antibiotics, and sent me on my way....in a few days, it cleared up.....the moral of the stroy is, if its an infection, he is going to treat i as he would any infection, regardless of the cause.....i would NEVER tell my doc im using, unless i positively new it would be the only way to save a limb or my life.....Deny, Deny, Deny

**stupidhippo** · 10-21-2006, 12:00 AM

u sir are right... in this case the information wont change the treatment at all!!!

**RUI-Products** · 10-21-2006, 12:10 AM

Yes deny deny deny ....don't ever tell ...you will never get insurance...I have a had this problem a few times. We used to carry emergency antibiotics. For those who couldn't get them. The doc is going to give you the same meds as if you bumped into a board with a nail sticking out. He may give you a tetness shot too if your not up to date...

**fLgAtOr** · 10-21-2006, 12:31 AM

I agree...As long as its not a full blown abcess, antibiotics are going to be the treatment.

B-12 sounds like a great reason.

**frank12391** · 10-21-2006, 07:54 AM

Ah, just tell him you ran out of swabs when you did your B12 shot and you learned your lesson. Play dumb. He will just treat the problem how he sees it. Shit, whats all the fuss man!!

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-21-2006, 08:02 AM

So a ripped 240lb guy goes into his doctor and says "doc I shot some B12 and now its painful" Haha I think the doc will know you been doing AS. I would deny if it affected my health cover though.

BG · 10-21-2006, 08:05 AM

Its to bad you guys dont find a good doc and let him know what your doing. Its such a relief, Ive had some great conversations about AAS, liver and kidney damage, what over the counters not to take when your stressing liver and kidneys. My doctor takes 4iu's of sero 5/2. You need to find a young, sports oriented doctor, I get the best American pharma grade hcg from him, your missing out.

BG · 10-21-2006, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Lion

Yes deny deny deny ....don't ever tell ...you will never get insurance...I have a had this problem a few times. We used to carry emergency antibiotics. For those who couldn't get them. The doc is going to give you the same meds as if you bumped into a board with a nail sticking out. He may give you a tetness shot too if your not up to date...

Tell him you shot lions b-12 and got an infection.

**frank12391** · 10-21-2006, 08:08 AM

he would have to prove it and he can't do it with your blood without your consent

**test-e-junky** · 10-21-2006, 09:14 AM

my injection swell up took 5 days to come down, if is past 5-6 days i would go if it is getting better day by day try to hang tough.

**stupidhippo** · 10-21-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Its to bad you guys dont find a good doc and let him know what your doing. Its such a relief, Ive had some great conversations about AAS, liver and kidney damage, what over the counters not to take when your stressing liver and kidneys. My doctor takes 4iu's of sero 5/2. You need to find a young, sports oriented doctor, I get the best American pharma grade hcg from him, your missing out.

not everyone is as lucky as u.. thats a pretty good situation..

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

I did a injection as normal on Monday like I always do, the ethante i've been using has been painful, it was a 1.5ml injection Monday 450mg of Ethante. Wed, Thurs, and Fri I've had a fever been unable to sleep, hot and cold sweats at night, and the area is extremly painful. I've deicded to call my doctor and get help, what I told the nurse is I injected 2ml 2000mcg of b12 and this caused the problem.

Do you guys think I should tell my doctor when I'm one on one will this change the method he is using to fix this problem, or should I stick with the b12 story, i'm failrly worried about this normally I wouldn't go to the doctor. The redness is not subsiding and the pain is not reducing, i've tried ice and Ibprofien. Please provide some insight if you can bro's thanks.

Speed.

sounds like ur muscle are newbie's to testosterone. i throw 3ml in my thighs no pain.. and thats 500mg test, 300mg deca. Just keep massaging the area, to move the oil around. Pump hard make them oil baloons grow!!!

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by GetHugeDieTrying

sounds like ur muscle are newbie's to testosterone. i throw 3ml in my thighs no pain.. and thats 500mg test, 300mg deca. Just keep massaging the area, to move the oil around. Pump hard make them oil baloons grow!!!

1ml injections used to hurt.. even in the thighs or butt.. it gets better ask anyone.

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 10:07 AM

only other thing i can think of, is change the oil which you use, i found cottonseed was painless, but mind you everythings virtually painless now,

i found salfflower oil hurt abit more, but it was thinner. The only way the pain will go away is if you keep doin it.. sounds harsh but gatta giver yo!!

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by speedtraining

Yes i've cycled before i'd call my self very expierienced at this point, used various substances, always go about things the right way...I don't understand how I could have a bacteria infection because i'm extremly sterile, could it be that the amount of B/A in the solution is simply to high? I'm torn on what to do i'm going to feel out the situation when I speak with him. It is pretty appartent though i'm 243 pounds and shreaded, i'm discontinuing my drol and letro for the day, I realize its in my system but atleast the concentrations will not be as high. I do appreciate everyones help hopefully this will work out quickly.

Thanks.

Speed.

Youve done cycles. tried gear. Then narrow it down. ITs Your Gear Casuing the pain.

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