im on tren/prop 100 each ed and

**cantspeak** · 10-21-2006, 05:19 AM

i just started this past monday.The insomnia thing started tueday, depression has set inn as well, i feel like slpeeping all the time.Is this normal with these compunds?Also taking T3 25mcg 2on-1off. This is my 4th cycle. Should i try to lower the Tren dose to 50mged ? a little help thanks

BG · 10-21-2006, 08:16 AM

You can give that a try, Im in the same boat right now. It takes me long time to get to sleep, then I sweat, then I have to get up. Ive been taking benadryl to help, I seem to get deeper sleep when I do sleep so Ill take that. Its tough being on AAS and not getting enough sleep, its actually the worst thing Ive encountered so far.Good luck.

***Narkissos*** · 10-21-2006, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by cantspeak

i just started this past monday.The insomnia thing started tueday, depression has set inn as well, i feel like slpeeping all the time.Is this normal with these compunds?Also taking T3 25mcg 2on-1off. This is my 4th cycle. Should i try to lower the Tren dose to 50mged ? a little help thanks

Why are you running t3 on and off?

**marcus300** · 10-21-2006, 08:31 AM

I would stick with it for a few more days normally you get use to it and it subsides, if it doesnt consider lowering the dose which should work, i also dont understand the t3 on and off??

**eightball17** · 10-21-2006, 08:35 AM

I'm running a Tren Prop cycle too, except I also added in Eq and will add in Winny in week 5. I'm only running 75mg of Tren though, but I have no noticable sides....as of yet.

**goalseeker** · 10-21-2006, 08:45 AM

Im running Tren 150mg/ed and prop 150mg/ed and havent had either of these sides.. got the night sweats like crazy, but I feel like an animal most of the time...Great stuff.....

**musclestack** · 10-21-2006, 09:35 AM

Speaking from personal experience, I would either drop the Tren dose or increase the test dose. This should help you with the depression and sleepiness. IMO, I don't think you need 100 mg/ed of Tren to gain since it's only your 4th cycle. BTW-What are your stats?

**GetHugeDieTrying** · 10-21-2006, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

Im running Tren 150mg/ed and prop 150mg/ed and havent had either of these sides.. got the night sweats like crazy, but I feel like an animal most of the time...Great stuff.....

lol goalseeker you are a dirty animal

**cantspeak** · 10-21-2006, 11:16 AM

well the T3 is not for cutting just to keep bodtfat in check and help me get in a few more good cals

**guest589745** · 10-21-2006, 12:38 PM

The tiredness was worse for me when I had my test above 500mg. I lowered it and felt better. I hate that efeling too. I could sleep at any given time. try giving blood too.

**smiler** · 10-21-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

You can give that a try, Im in the same boat right now. It takes me long time to get to sleep, then I sweat, then I have to get up. Ive been taking benadryl to help, I seem to get deeper sleep when I do sleep so Ill take that. Its tough being on AAS and not getting enough sleep, its actually the worst thing Ive encountered so far.Good luck.

i think you must have misread, not dissing you bro but he said he feels like sleeping all the time, prolly the depression, and you get insomnia, lack of sleep. pearsonally i just get the sweats, and occasional cough. but love tren E....peace

**smiler** · 10-21-2006, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

The tiredness was worse for me when I had my test above 500mg. I lowered it and felt better. I hate that efeling too. I could sleep at any given time. try giving blood too.

is it possible that comes from such intense workouts? if so i think thats a good thing, as long as it's not effecting you work or general living. especially driving...when your at rest, you are growing. couple years ago i read an interview with jay c. he said he naps very frequently. like a dozen short naps daily.

**guest589745** · 10-21-2006, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

is it possible that comes from such intense workouts?.

Not likely. I felt like this when I took a week off and at the beginnning of the cycle.

Originally Posted by smiler

if so i think thats a good thing, as long as it's not effecting you work or general living. especially driving...when your at rest, you are growing. couple years ago i read an interview with jay c. he said he naps very frequently. like a dozen short naps daily.

I have a career that doesnt solely involve eating, lifting and sleeping lol.
I am not Jay. Im not on (most likely) huge doses of steroids and growth hormone so I can't realy compare myself in that aspect, to him, or any other pro BBer for that matter.

**smiler** · 10-21-2006, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Not likely. I felt like this when I took a week off and at the beginnning of the cycle.

I have a career that doesnt solely involve eating, lifting and sleeping lol.
I am not Jay. Im not on (most likely) huge doses of steroids and growth hormone so I can't realy compare myself in that aspect, to him, or any other pro BBer for that matter.

i caretainly wasn't suggesting you were. or that you should take 12 naps ed. just making a point thats all. i know when i train legs or back, i nap immediatly after eating, whether i want to or not.

**guest589745** · 10-21-2006, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

i caretainly wasn't suggesting you were. or that you should take 12 naps ed. just making a point thats all. i know when i train legs or back, i nap immediatly after eating, whether i want to or not.

Oh ok, I hear ya.

**FranKieC** · 10-21-2006, 04:07 PM

Run the T3 ED

**IBdmfkr** · 10-21-2006, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by smiler

i caretainly wasn't suggesting you were. or that you should take 12 naps ed. just making a point thats all. i know when i train legs or back, i nap immediatly after eating, whether i want to or not.

This could be due to your PWO nutrition as well.. Many people who spike their insulin PWO seem to have a crash shortly after, and the intensity of the leg workout and stress on the Nervous sytem doesn't help.

YO FRANKIE!

F U!

**FranKieC** · 10-21-2006, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by I**mfkr

This could be due to your PWO nutrition as well.. Many people who spike their insulin PWO seem to have a crash shortly after, and the intensity of the leg workout and stress on the Nervous sytem doesn't help.

YO FRANKIE!

F U!

F U

Down to 9% waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

**legobricks** · 10-21-2006, 04:46 PM

Spiking the insulin PWO wrecks like %25 of the last bit of my workout cus i crash so hard. I just push thru it tho. I just tried this last week and pretty much never doing it again. I talked with one of Art Atwoods buddies at my gym and he was tellin me to eat protien preworkout and spike your insulin along with eating protein after workout. I found this to give my body a more intese workout. gonna keep tryint his tho to see how it works.

***Narkissos*** · 10-21-2006, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by cantspeak

well the T3 is not for cutting just to keep bodtfat in check and help me get in a few more good cals

Playing with your thyroid is what you're doing.. not 'keeping bodyfat in check'.

It's not like clen .. t3 is hormonal

You're either 'on' or 'off'...there's no in between.

Reduce the dosage and run ED... or stop running it period.

***Narkissos*** · 10-21-2006, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by cantspeak

i just started this past monday.The insomnia thing started tueday, depression has set inn as well, i feel like slpeeping all the time.Is this normal with these compunds?Also taking T3 25mcg 2on-1off. This is my 4th cycle. Should i try to lower the Tren dose to 50mged ? a little help thanks

This is your 4th cycle.. I'll assume you've run test in all your previous cycles. I'll also assume that you've never experienced side effects like those you've reported...

So i'd fathom that the sides are all tren -related.

I tried tren very briefly.. constant sweating; insomnia; depression; vivid (hallucination-filled) dreams...and finally bronchitis (which is still plaguing me)... all at the low dose of 100 mg EOD.

Needless to say.. i dropped that shit.

Tren is no joke. Some people get no (or few) sides... Some people get every side reportable. It's a harsh drug imo.

Try a lower dose starting from the minimally effective dose. Ramp as your body allows. Honestly tho.. if the minimally effective dosage is giving you results.. i'd stay at said dosage

Good luck.

Nark

**one8nine** · 10-22-2006, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Why are you running t3 on and off?

thast what i was thinking
i dont know TOO much about t3 but this sounds terrible

**cantspeak** · 10-22-2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Playing with your thyroid is what you're doing.. not 'keeping bodyfat in check'.

It's not like clen .. t3 is hormonal

You're either 'on' or 'off'...there's no in between.

Reduce the dosage and run ED... or stop running it period.

iM NOT saying that the T3 is going to do all the work as far as keeping bodyfat down.I used T3 in my very1st it was sustanon ,deca ,winny

any way with the T3 i know it did help me stay lean and when i came off i had no rebound so ive used this compound before

**cantspeak** · 10-22-2006, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

This is your 4th cycle.. I'll assume you've run test in all your previous cycles. I'll also assume that you've never experienced side effects like those you've reported...

So i'd fathom that the sides are all tren -related.

I tried tren very briefly.. constant sweating; insomnia; depression; vivid (hallucination-filled) dreams...and finally bronchitis (which is still plaguing me)... all at the low dose of 100 mg EOD.

Needless to say.. i dropped that shit.

Tren is no joke. Some people get no (or few) sides... Some people get every side reportable. It's a harsh drug imo.

Try a lower dose starting from the minimally effective dose. Ramp as your body allows. Honestly tho.. if the minimally effective dosage is giving you results.. i'd stay at said dosage

Good luck.

Nark

all my previuos cycles i felt great on test.These sides are new to me.