rate this cycle

**cj1capp** · 10-31-2006, 07:19 PM

rate this as a simple mass builder for the novice user.

weeks 1 -10 test c 200mg
weeks 3 -11 tren a 150 mg
weeks 4 -13 deca 200mg

**mkrulic** · 10-31-2006, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by cj1capp

rate this as a simple mass builder for the novice user.

weeks 1 -10 test c 200mg
weeks 3 -11 tren a 150 mg
weeks 4 -13 deca 200mg

too low everything. wouldnt recomend tren a for first cycle. why the delay for the tren and deca . why run deca and tren longer than test.
rating : crap

**bb868484** · 10-31-2006, 07:23 PM

Up the test to at least 400mg a week and run two weeks past the deca . At that low dose of tren and deca it might be ok but running the two at the same time is no advised due to progesterone activity.

**bb868484** · 10-31-2006, 07:24 PM

did you say this was your first cycle

**mkrulic** · 10-31-2006, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by bb868484

did you say this was your first cycle

"for the novice user."

**cj1capp** · 10-31-2006, 07:26 PM

this cycle was put together by william llewellyn of anabolics 2006 and as he explains it and i quote " the tren helps to harden up the gains and the use of only 200mg of test and deca should keep the estrogen levels from geting too far out of hand" pg 55 anabolics 2006

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-31-2006, 07:28 PM

I give it an F.

**mkrulic** · 10-31-2006, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by cj1capp

this cycle was put together by william llewellyn of anabolics 2006 and as he explains it and i quote " the tren helps to harden up the gains and the use of only 200mg of test and deca should keep the estrogen levels from geting too far out of hand" pg 55 anabolics 2006

there's ways of keeping the estrogen low. like running everything at zero which is not real far off from where you are. would that 150mg be one shot or spread out thru the week. one shot of tren ace a week would give one hell of an emotional roller coaster ride. what a waste of everything. nothing but problems w/ this one

**cj1capp** · 10-31-2006, 07:41 PM

well i thank you all for the help many of the sugested cycles seem strang in the anabolics 2006 book but he always gives a good rational as to why. i now feel real world experience wins out over the academic research.

**mkrulic** · 10-31-2006, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by cj1capp

well i thank you all for the help many of the sugested cycles seem strang in the anabolics 2006 book but he always gives a good rational as to why. i now feel real world experience wins out over the academic research.

The standard around here is test only cycle for a first (novice user) run. single ester like enan or cyp.
good luck