can i add more?

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 02:03 PM

hey everyone , currently on my 4th week of test e , just finished up my b-bol(at 40mgs a day), in past post i have explained the dianabol hasent really done anything except harden me up a little , in the end i only gained 6 pounds from the dbol and i am almost possitive almost no water, im very disapointed in these gains i had high hopes for dbol, anyways i am wondering if i can add anyything into this cycle , i am runnin 500 test e a week (monday ,thurs) this is my first cycle but i must be a harder gainer then i thought, anything i can add to builk or even add some more cuts? thanks
(dont say food because i am eating ALOT i cant eat anymore a day my diets more then enough)

**FranKieC** · 11-01-2006, 02:09 PM

Wait till the Test Kicks in..Should be around weeks 4-6

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 02:13 PM

im only running test for 10 weeks and wanna put on as much as possible , i have gotten all the blood work done, everythings fine so i think i can handle somthing more

probobly not the best idea but i was thinking maybe an m1t with the cycle , but thats oral so i dunno might be tough ont he liver

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 02:33 PM

anyone?

**x_moe** · 11-01-2006, 02:34 PM

gained 6 lbs and no water ? doesnt sound like dbols to me

**goose** · 11-01-2006, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by x_moe

gained 6 lbs and no water ? doesnt sound like dbols to me

For a first cycle Dbol at 40mgs is strong!!! Your going to see fire-works....

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 02:36 PM

100 percent sure it was dbol , and real , very reliable source... me and my source were shocked about the results , he offerd my money back , but it wasent the gear it was defently my reaction to it

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 02:38 PM

fire works?

**goose** · 11-01-2006, 02:39 PM

What anti E (dose) are you using?

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 02:40 PM

i have nolvo on hand but havent seen any need to use it yet

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 02:49 PM

soooooo??? guess not? lol

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 03:14 PM

can anybody answer my question?

**goose** · 11-01-2006, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by andler

can anybody answer my question?

NO ............WAIT FOR THE TEST

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 03:23 PM

now was that sooo hard? haha anyways im sick of waiting so far cycle is a big disapointment!

**Hellmaskbanned** · 11-01-2006, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by andler

now was that sooo hard? haha anyways im sick of waiting so far cycle is a big disapointment!

Whats your stats?
First cycle?

6lbs with no water is great for that early of gains. Are you big ? If so it's harder to put on alot of weight.

But , to me you sound like a small fellow, who expected miracles, when he wasn't ready to touch a steroid anyhow....IMO.

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 03:31 PM

im 20 , i know im young but i was defently ready im 6' tall and weigh just over 180 now, ill admit i was expecting more then what i have gotten from dbol but i was in no way expecting "miracles" some of my friends have ran the same cycle and have gained ALOT more then me , just disapointing i guess... hopping there was somthing eles i could take maybe to speed this up since dbol dident really work well for me, but with my research nothing seems safe after a 4 week dbol cycle

**Venomous Nemisis** · 11-01-2006, 03:32 PM

Be patient, both for results and replies
Think of your cycle as a marathon and not a sprint
If you've got your diet in check and you're killin it at the gym you should see good gains.
Be sure to follow up with proper PCT

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 03:34 PM

diet and work out is in check , thanks for the advice, i have nolva on hand for pct but im almost possitive img oing to add clomid now

**Hellmaskbanned** · 11-01-2006, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by andler

diet and work out is in check , thanks for the advice, i have nolva on hand for pct but im almost possitive img oing to add clomid now

I don't think it is.

6ft 180lbs, is around an average physique. Your continueing to train or eat improper and it's effecting your cycle. Thats whay many say get a foundation built before you cycle.

How long have you been training?
How many days you lift a week?
How many calories/protein do you consume daily?

**goose** · 11-01-2006, 03:58 PM

20 years old and you think you understand diet and work out.....as the great old dirty would say,Nigga please...

**fLgAtOr** · 11-01-2006, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by andler

diet and work out is in check , thanks for the advice, i have nolva on hand for pct but im almost possitive img oing to add clomid now

Post it!

...and why start clomid now??

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 08:37 PM

oh im not going to start the clomid now, im saying for pct , and training, ive been trining straight for 2 years, before that just off and on, i lift 5 days a week but usualy i find myself in the gym on my off days doing cardio or abs, diet is defently in check i dont count carbs though but i eat between 4-6 solid meals a day with 3 protien shakes in between , i know theres alot of immature kids who sound just like me but i do my research and id hope you take what i say seriuse... im thinking of adding A50 (50mg/d) for 25 days, any oppinions?

**fLgAtOr** · 11-01-2006, 08:43 PM

I wasn't saying you sound immature at all bro... But I respect the fact that there are people here who know more about diets and juice and training than I ever will. Don't dismiss help so quickly.

And I dont' think you should add anything. Hold out, train hard, and let the test do its job.

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 08:48 PM

okay thanks flgator appreate the oppinion,,, but (anyone) how liver toxic would it actually be to run a50 for 25 days right after my dbol (4 week at 40mg/d) cycle? i use milk thistle daily and never drink alchly (even though i get it free lol)

**Hellmaskbanned** · 11-01-2006, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by andler

okay thanks flgator appreate the oppinion,,, but (anyone) how liver toxic would it actually be to run a50 for 25 days right after my dbol (4 week at 40mg/d) cycle? i use milk thistle daily and never drink alchly (even though i get it free lol)

adding more drugs isn't the solution to your problem.

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 08:55 PM

appreate the concern,,, but how bad would this actually be iuo?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 11-01-2006, 09:02 PM

They way your looking at it....why not just add HGH, Slin , and somthing else to make up for your poor gains from your diet/training. If you cant grow well off of dbol & test your DEFINITLY doing something WRONG.

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 09:06 PM

what though? i am more then willing to change anything!!! i cant find out what im doing wrong

**shrpskn** · 11-01-2006, 09:07 PM

...or his gear is garbage...

-ShrpSkn

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 09:12 PM

not poissible . thought of that already, like i have posted friends have same gear with way better results

**shrpskn** · 11-01-2006, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by andler

not poissible . thought of that already, like i have posted friends have same gear with way better results

If the problem is not your gear, then the problem is indeed yourself.

Sounds like you hopped on this cycle a bit uninformed and undereducated.

I'd heed to the advice of others in this thread...

JMHO,

-ShrpSkn

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 09:20 PM

how was i undereducated ? i researched ALOONG time , counltess hours researching before i decided if and what i was going to take, i dont understand whats wrong i am looking for help though and am very open to helpfull advice!

**shrpskn** · 11-01-2006, 09:24 PM

Scroll through your thread...all the advice you need has already been laid out for you in one form or another.

-ShrpSkn

**handler** · 11-01-2006, 09:26 PM

ok well shrpskn , how bad would it be on the liver givin i just finished dbol ?... and should i start to run nolva with it to keep away bloat?

**lil-SLIM** · 11-01-2006, 09:52 PM

Dont mean to butt in but why not just extend your test e to 12 weeks

If u got 6 lbs in the first month maybe u can get 12 more 18lbs isnt bad at all

plus u said its firm weight so hopefully u will keep it

have your lifts been going up at the gym, do u feel stronger?

**fLgAtOr** · 11-02-2006, 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by andler

ok well shrpskn , how bad would it be on the liver givin i just finished dbol?... and should i start to run nolva with it to keep away bloat?

Bad, so don't do it!

**handler** · 11-02-2006, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by lil-SLIM

Dont mean to butt in but why not just extend your test e to 12 weeks

If u got 6 lbs in the first month maybe u can get 12 more 18lbs isnt bad at all

plus u said its firm weight so hopefully u will keep it

have your lifts been going up at the gym, do u feel stronger?

lifts are defently stronger , as for extending the test , that is an option i am considering, i already have the a50 , im probobly going to just hold ont o them and maybe add them to my next cycle... thanks for the advice hopfully i can gain more fromt his alittle faster ive upped the food intake (its rediculus now)

if i held onto the a50 and ran it as an oral only for a next cycle what could i expect , is it hard to keep gains? anyone ever run this alone?