First time with tren

**manwithin** · 11-02-2006, 11:31 AM

OK here is the cycle I'm planing on for jan, I've run prop before so I know 100mg is a good dose for me I was just thinking about the tren I would like to keep it low to start with but, am I using too much test and no enough tren?

AAS
Prop, wks 1-10, 100mg ED
Tren, wks 1-8, 50mg ED

Ancillaries
B6, weeks 1-10, 200mg ED
Aromasin , wks 1-10, 12.5mg ED
Proviron , wks 1-10, 50mg ED
T3, 25mcgs, wks 1-8 ED

PCT
Nolvadex , 11-15, 20mg ED
Aromasin, 11-15, 25mg ED
B6, wks 11-15 200mg ED
vitamin E, wks 11-15 1000iu ED

**goalseeker** · 11-02-2006, 12:55 PM

that depends... whats you cycle history?
This is my 3rd run with it and what works best for me is 150mg/ed...
And this is also my 7th cycle....

**manwithin** · 11-02-2006, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

that depends... whats you cycle history?
This is my 3rd run with it and what works best for me is 150mg/ed...
And this is also my 7th cycle....

I've run three cycles so far,
test prop 100mg ed 10 weeks
test e 500mg wk 10 weeks
test e 600mg wk with var 100mg ed for 12weeks

**DHew** · 11-02-2006, 02:25 PM

test e 600mg wk with var 100mg ed for 12weeks

12 weeks is a long time to run var. Did you get blood tests done afterwords? What did it look like?

**goalseeker** · 11-02-2006, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by DHew

12 weeks is a long time to run var. Did you get blood tests done afterwords? What did it look like?

WHOA!! no kidding... Hows the 'ol liver doing??

**goalseeker** · 11-02-2006, 03:41 PM

I always run my test at least 12 weeks... usually 16..
Same for the Tren , although some may say only run it for 8-10, 16 is my personal magic number....

**manwithin** · 11-02-2006, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

WHOA!! no kidding... Hows the 'ol liver doing??

Yeah I guess I should have written it better, The cycle was
1-12wks test e 600mg
4-12wks var 100mg

Anyway, tren for 16 weeks? So you don't see a problem with the prop running double what the tren is?

**Swifto** · 11-02-2006, 04:08 PM

You should also use Proviron at around 50mg/ED for PCT. No exceeding 150mg/ED. If you want me to list the benifits, I will?

Also, your using a 19-Nor. When I use a 19-Nor, which I will onday, I will use HCG throughout to maintain testicular size and function at around 125-500ius 2/3 times weekly. And for PCT.

**manwithin** · 11-02-2006, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

You should also use Proviron at around 50mg/ED for PCT. No exceeding 150mg/ED. If you want me to list the benifits, I will?

Also, your using a 19-Nor. When I use a 19-Nor, which I will onday, I will use HCG throughout to maintain testicular size and function at around 125-500ius 2/3 times weekly. And for PCT.

Shit now this is how it looks....

AAS
Prop, wks 1-10, 100mg ED
Tren , wks 1-8, 50mg ED

Ancillaries
B6, weeks 1-10, 200mg ED
Aromasin , wks 1-10, 12.5mg ED
Proviron, wks 1-10, 50mg ED
T3, 25mcgs, wks 1-8 ED
HCG , 250iu wks 1-10 EOD

PCT
Proviron, wks 11-15, 50mg ED
Nolvadex , 11-15, 20mg ED
Aromasin, 11-15, 25mg ED
B6, wks 11-15 200mg ED
vitamin E, wks 11-15 1000iu ED
HCG, 250iu wks 11-15 EOD

I'm a walking chemical factory..lol

**shrpskn** · 11-03-2006, 10:08 AM

I think you're running too much HCG . For the length of your cycle, I'd shoot HCG the last week or so of your cycle and maybe the first week of PCT.

-ShrpSkn

**manwithin** · 11-03-2006, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

I think you're running too much HCG . For the length of your cycle, I'd shoot HCG the last week or so of your cycle and maybe the first week of PCT.

-ShrpSkn

You tren users you run stuff like this?
AAS
Prop, wks 1-10, 100mg ED
Tren, wks 1-8, 50mg ED

Ancillaries
B6, weeks 1-10, 200mg ED
Aromasin , wks 1-10, 12.5mg ED
Proviron , wks 1-10, 50mg ED
T3, 25mcgs, wks 1-8 ED

PCT
Proviron, wks 11-15, 50mg ED
Nolvadex , 11-15, 20mg ED
Aromasin, 11-15, 25mg ED
B6, wks 11-15 200mg ED
vitamin E, wks 11-15 1000iu ED
HCG, 250iu wks 11-13 EOD

alright I still think this is a little over kill for a 10 weeks cycle. can anyone tell me something else I need or don't need.

**goalseeker** · 11-03-2006, 11:20 AM

Tren dose seems low to me, but I have ran it 3 times already....

**shrpskn** · 11-03-2006, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

Tren dose seems low to me, but I have ran it 3 times already....

I don't think 50mg/ed is a bad dose to start tren at for a first timer...I'd start it at that dose and adjust your dose accordingly, depending on sides or results.
I ran tren at 50mg/ed my first time and it was more than enough..I've ran it 3x and still won't exceed 100mg/ed.

-ShrpSkn

**goalseeker** · 11-03-2006, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

I don't think 50mg/ed is a bad dose to start tren at for a first timer...I'd start it at that dose and adjust your dose accordingly, depending on sides or results.I ran tren at 50mg/ed my first time and it was more than enough..I've ran it 3x and still won't exceed 100mg/ed.

-ShrpSkn

absolutely... great advice!!

**neverenuff21** · 11-03-2006, 11:42 AM

50 mgs a day is a great starting dose for tren . This is my second run with it and Im doing that exact cycle(10 weeks test 1oo/day 50 tren) but I kicked mine off with 45mgs of dbol for three weeks. Im up 13 pounds in three weeks. Now Im dropping the dbol and bringing the tren to 75/day. Im looking great!!! Im also running .5mgs of duta/day. gotta watch the hair, my fiance isnt fond of bald heads...