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    rgecko23 is offline Associate Member
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    a good test and winny cycle for second cycle?

    can you guys give me a good run for a test and winny cycle.

    my first cycle 250 test depot once week for ten weeks. i saw decent results but i want to do a second one., i ended my last cycle 1 year ago. i also took 10mg of nolva throughout. im 29, 6'-0", and 195. not ripped but no fat either. im not sure what my bf% is, but its not great. that's why i was thinking of running another cycle of test depot and throwing in some winny. Also, could you tell me how much i should do, or is there another type of cycle that would be good for a second round.

    thanks bros.

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    some say run winnie throughout....some say backload it.....for a fact once a week of test is nothing even for a first cycle go EOD or E3D....ur levels must have been all over....just my 2 cents

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    i searched around here and asked a bunch of questions and i was told it was a good first cycle, but i didnt think it was as good as what i should have been doing. that's why this time i think i am going to do 250 twice a week for 10 weeks and the same amount of nolva. ( i dont want baboon boobs) hahaha

    but any advice on how to run the winny?

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    well i am only 3 cycles deep with my first to been very basic as well...but heres would run it if I was backloading winnie

    1-12 500mg test
    5-12 50mg ED win

    but i would prefer a kickstarter over winnie anyday

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    like deca ?

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    Love It...add that at 400mg/week and you may have something there

    just be strict with pct protocol

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    last one i did 10 mg of nolva every day then two weeks after last injection i did 50 mg for a week, then 25, then 10, then off and i took trib for the last two weeks of pct. it worked out pretty well. no sides or limpin. you think that is good enough or go with something else?

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    Bumpity

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    Heres what I suggest....this is a probably around the norm for a #2 cycle

    1-4 dbol 40mg ED
    1-12 test 250 E3D
    1-18 nolva 20mg ED
    15-18 clomid 300 first day 100 rest of first week 50 thereafter

    If you were thinking of deca add it like this

    1-11 400mg/week

    but if you do that I would add an AI

    save the winnie for another day....6'0 195 i would go w/ a generic bulker....im 6'6'' 230 and still bulking....I perfer cutting in spring/summer when i get to show off the work i put in during the winter

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    Test + Oral for a 2nd cycle IMHO. Its all thats needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Test + Oral for a 2nd cycle IMHO. Its all thats needed.
    i second this

    Week 1-12 Test E 500-600mg
    Week 1-6 Tbols 40-50mg ED

    Followed by good pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by plzr8
    i second this

    Week 1-12 Test E 500-600mg
    Week 1-6 Tbols 40-50mg ED

    Followed by good pct
    I did that for my 1st and 2nd cycle!

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    thanks guys, i appreciate it. i think i have a good starting point now.

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