Shutdown=shutdown regardless of dose ?

**guest589745** · 11-03-2006, 08:56 PM

Would someone for example, be just as shutdown on 200mg Deca as they would be with 800mg Deca ?

Get what I'm asking ?

I should know this damnit.........

**anaBROLIC** · 11-03-2006, 09:19 PM

good question, dont know the exact answer but this could also be one of those things that varies in different people. i see shutdowns around the same time during different cycles no matter what the dosage is.

**ascendant** · 11-03-2006, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

good question, dont know the exact answer but this could also be one of those things that varies in different people. i see shutdowns around the same time during different cycles no matter what the dosage is.

as far as "seeing" shutdowns, how do you know when you "shutdown"? i would imagine you'd consider testicle shrinkage to be a symptom, but shutdown would have occured well before shrinkage does.

i have no idea when i shutdown personally. my nuts never shrink while on a cycle, but obviously at the end of a cycle, i know very well my body has shutdown.

**guest589745** · 11-03-2006, 09:25 PM

Yea true.

**anaBROLIC** · 11-03-2006, 09:26 PM

usually i can tell because my sex drive just drops like crazy. it will spike then be very low teh rest of the way. thats how i see it.

**Montgomery** · 11-03-2006, 09:29 PM

both cycles will shut you down, obviously. The 800 will shut you down a little faster, but not much, because 200 is already enough to inhibit all natty test. However 800 will certaily, without doubt, shut you down faster (and harder) than, say, 50.

That is, the difference between two relatively high doses with respect to shut down is negligible.

Montgomery

**SMAN12b** · 11-03-2006, 09:29 PM

my only concern would be recovery time.....I would think 200mgs would be easier to recover from than 800, but hell if I know for sure......

***BajanBastard*** · 11-03-2006, 09:43 PM

Depends on the drug 50mg of oxandrolone ED will not 'shut you down' harder than say 200mg ED but 50mg tren ED most likely would just be as hard as 200mg ED. Ancillary usage is also a huge variable here.

**guest589745** · 11-03-2006, 09:43 PM

Can yuo even measure "how shutdown" you are ?

**guest589745** · 11-03-2006, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

Ancillary usage is also a huge variable here.

elaborate please....

***BajanBastard*** · 11-03-2006, 10:02 PM

The guy using letro and caber with his test/tren cycle will recover easier that the dude who did not.

**AnabolicBoy1981** · 11-03-2006, 10:11 PM

yes, they will both shut you down but the higher dose will simply do it faster. Theyre have been studies done with this on test i remmeber seeing. The 200mg a week took 4 weeks to shut down but 400mg took 2 weeks before shut down. Those numbers might not be exact, but i def remember it was 2 weeks for the higher dose and 4 weeks for the lesser dose.
With deca it would be similar though the only thing is that many feel deca shuts them down worse than test.

**one8nine** · 11-03-2006, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

The guy using letro and caber with his test/tren cycle will recover easier that the dude who did not.

what do you think about masteron for this scenario?

**guest589745** · 11-03-2006, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

what do you think about masteron for this scenario?

I think it wil help but I am not sure to exactly what degree.

**The_Canibal** · 11-04-2006, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Can yuo even measure "how shutdown" you are ?

by measuring the LH....

**helium3** · 11-04-2006, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Would someone for example, be just as shutdown on 200mg Deca as they would be with 800mg Deca ?

Get what I'm asking ?

I should know this damnit.........

total shutdown will occur in either case,but the higher the dose the longer it will be active in your system due to its half life.

ie: after 3 weeks 200mg dca should havwe dropped to less than 100mg but 800mg will have dropped to around 400mg(figures are for example only).

**The_Canibal** · 11-04-2006, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by helium3

total shutdown will occur in either case,but the higher the dose the longer it will be active in your system due to its half life.

ie: after 3 weeks 200mg dca should havwe dropped to less than 100mg but 800mg will have dropped to around 400mg(figures are for example only).

that makes sense...

**Property of Steroid.com** · 11-04-2006, 07:48 AM

IF you take 100mgs of Deca (regardless of ester) you'll be producing no testosterone within 24 hours. It doesn't matter if you take 100mgs or 1,000 mgs, you'll be 100% shutdown within a day. The dose doesn't matter, in this case...it's the compound.

If you take 100mgs of testosterone, then shutdown can take 5-6 weeks until you aren't producing any natural test, while it takes a week or two if you take 250-500mgs. In that case, the dose does matter, because the compound is different.

(References available in my testosterone and deca profiles)

**stupidhippo** · 11-04-2006, 08:27 AM

really I didnt know deca shut u down so fast... I thought i t takes some time.. does the length of being shutdown affect the recovery? I woud assume so but what do i know...

**shrpskn** · 11-04-2006, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Can yuo even measure "how shutdown" you are ?

Yes, labwork.

**ascendant** · 11-04-2006, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

usually i can tell because my sex drive just drops like crazy. it will spike then be very low teh rest of the way. thats how i see it.

oh, ok. see my sex drive is through the roof all the way through a cycle. guess it affects us all differently. oh, and my nads never shrink during a cycle either, even ones up to 12 weeks. not like i'm gonna complain of course, but just saying.