Final Check before its ordered

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 02:54 PM

1-6 40mg ED Anadrol
1-14 250mg E3D Test Enth
1-13 200mg E3D deca
1-15 50mg ED proviron
7-13 40MG ED Winnie
1-15 25 ED Aromasin

PCT begins week 16
16-20 Nolva 20mg ED
16-19 Aromasin 25mg ED
16-19 Proviron 50mg ED

please tell me what u think....placing order tomorrow

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 02:57 PM

My source doesn't get HCG ...anything that i can take in its place or is what u see here fine...thanx for the help

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 03:40 PM

bump

**Benches505** · 11-05-2006, 04:36 PM

I would cut the anadrol down to 4 weeks from 6. ThAt cycle should make for a very nice bulker with the gram of test and 800 deca in there. You might also want to run a little prop for a few weeks after your last test E shot to ease you down into PCT.

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 04:40 PM

1000 test 800 deca ....im not that far along yet and my body prob won't be able to handle that much...i wass thinking 750 600 though...wouldn't the proviron help easy me into PCT?

**donniebrasco** · 11-05-2006, 04:54 PM

if e3d means every third day then at the amount you have said will equal 1000 and 800

**shrpskn** · 11-05-2006, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Benches505

I would cut the anadrol down to 4 weeks from 6. ThAt cycle should make for a very nice bulker with the gram of test and 800 deca in there. You might also want to run a little prop for a few weeks after your last test E shot to ease you down into PCT.

I agree.

And is the winny oral or injectable? I ask because I'm not a fan of jumping from one 17aa oral to another for the length of a cycle. If the winny is injectable, then I would say you should be good to go in that aspect.
Personally, especially if this a bulk cycle for you, which I'd say it is, I would round out the end of my cycle with some test prop, rather than winny. JMHO.

As for having no HCG available, no biggie. I would say that Proviron is probably the next best thing.

Good luck with your cycle,

-ShrpSkn

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 05:07 PM

Sorry I wrote it wrong...The Bold shows the days I will shot Test (250mg)/Deca (200)

Mon/Tues/Wed/Thurs/Fri/Sat/Sun- 750/600
Mon/Tues/Wed/Thurs/Fri/Sat/Sun 500/400
Mon/Tues/Wed/Thurs/Fri/Sat/Sun 500/400
Mon/Tues/Wed/Thurs/Fri/Sat/Sun 750/600

SharpSkn: yes the winny is oral....u are the second to recommend prop so i will run that instead of the winnie

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 05:16 PM

Revised and Completed??

1-4 50mg ED Anadrol
1-14 250mg E3D Test Enth
1-13 200mg E3D deca
1-15 50mg ED proviron
5-13 50mg ED Test Prop
14-15 100mg ED Test Prop
1-15 25 ED Aromasin

PCT begins week 16
16-20 Nolva 20mg ED
16-19 Aromasin 25mg ED
16-19 Proviron 50mg ED

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 06:49 PM

bump....is this better?

**shrpskn** · 11-05-2006, 06:59 PM

I would opt out of the test prop, weeks 5-13 50mg/ed, and run it @ 100mg/ed from the week of your last test E injection and up till PCT...weeks 14-16.

No need, IMO, for the prop at that dose, weeks 5-13, when you're already going to have all the test you need from the test E shot 250mg/e3d.

-ShrpSkn

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 07:11 PM

got it....IYO everything else in check

**shrpskn** · 11-05-2006, 07:29 PM

I don't see the need for the nolva during PCT either, seeing you'll already be running the proviron ...otherwise I'd say you're golden.

Good luck,

**HighandWide** · 11-05-2006, 09:10 PM

Thanx for the insight....I see what your saying but w/ PCT i would rather be safe than sorry....It takes me awhile to come back and with nolva being cheaper i figured I would run till week 20 and may need to even stretch it longer depending on how far alone natty test has come

**HighandWide** · 11-06-2006, 06:48 AM

Finally Completed...thanx to everyone for their help

1-4 50mg ED Anadrol
1-14 250mg E3D Test Enth
1-13 200mg E3D deca
1-16 50mg ED proviron
1-16 25 ED Aromasin
14-16 100mg ED Test Prop

PCT begins week 16
17-20 Nolva 20mg ED
17-19 Aromasin 25mg ED
17-19 Proviron 50mg ED

**Iron-man** · 11-06-2006, 09:34 AM

H&W, I really like your cycle. I have been watching your evolve while I work on mine.
You can see it here at if you think it might be of interest to you.
Cycle #2, deca & test, needs pct tweak for HCG
Got a lot of help from Swifto!!!!

**HighandWide** · 11-06-2006, 06:26 PM

looks very similar....If you have any questions about my cycle feel free to ask

**Iron-man** · 11-07-2006, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by HighandWide

looks very similar....If you have any questions about my cycle feel free to ask

Yes, they are similar

which is good, must be a good combo.
Originally I was going to use the deca & take a chance with the bloat, while using aromasin (or L-dex) to control the bloat from the test-e. Do you know of anything that will control the bloat from deca, in case it gets out of hand?

**HighandWide** · 11-07-2006, 02:32 PM

no....bloat is common w/ deca ...some are prone to more bloat than others...but thats why majority of people run deca in bulking cycles...I am running aromasin w/ provirion for the first time thoughout so I'm not sure about the results I will experience w/ them....I've never really seen or heard of any cases where bloat "gets out of hand"...you don't turn into a water balloon...at least I don't. The bloat will be gone pretty much immediatly after you finish the deca

Will this be your first time running deca? You seem nervous

**Iron-man** · 11-09-2006, 09:19 AM

H&W, when do you start this cycle? Will you be doing an online cycle log?

Thx!

**HighandWide** · 11-09-2006, 10:28 AM

I plan on starting beginning of Dec....I get alot of time off from work during the next few months...plus there will be plenty of food around the house for the holiday

I have never done an onlie cycle log before but I would have no problem giving it a try....just off the top of my head I will prob post once a week w/ caloric intake, weekly training, weight gains, strength gains....I will determine strength gain in the DB bench and squat....anything else i should add if im to make a log

**Iron-man** · 11-09-2006, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by HighandWide

I plan on starting beginning of Dec....I get alot of time off from work during the next few months...plus there will be plenty of food around the house for the holiday

I have never done an onlie cycle log before but I would have no problem giving it a try....just off the top of my head I will prob post once a week w/ caloric intake, weekly training, weight gains, strength gains....I will determine strength gain in the DB bench and squat....anything else i should add if im to make a log

Well since "I am nervous" about running deca , I am curious to see you progress & if u get any sides. I know others that ran it, but did it wrong & I feel yours is right, so it should go much better.
At the bottom of my cycle thread, I posted an alterate version someone sent me, it has HCTZ (mild diuretic) to keep the drol & deca bloat off. I'm stll waiting to get some feed back on this variation. Mine will be next Jan/Feb area if all goes well. Regarding what to post, I think what you put is good.

Good luck with your cycle....