First Cycle Ever..Need some advice

**TJC 02** · 11-06-2006, 02:14 PM

Hey, this is my first steroid cycle ever. I am 5'9 about 170 lbs

here it is:

1-6: D-Bol 30 mg/day
1-8: Sustanon 500 mg/week
1-10: Liquidex .5 mg/day

Any advice if this right or wrong for me? anything i should add or drop?

any advice for a first time steroid user would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 02:16 PM

how old are you and how long have you worked out?

**JohnboyF** · 11-06-2006, 02:16 PM

age? training history?

**TJC 02** · 11-06-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by FaizakaFez

age? training history?

sorry for not adding that..
im 21 years old and have trained hard from about ages 15-19. I took almost a year off due to injury, but for the past 8 months i have been training hard again

**The OutLord** · 11-06-2006, 02:28 PM

First Cycle.
My oppinon!!

D-Bol 30mg ED ore Propionate 250/300mg EW And Tamoxifen 20mg ED and dont stopp with Tamoxifen after 1/2 week after you AAS cycle have ended..

AAS Cycle 8 weeks.
End off week 8 and week 9 and week 10 500IU HCG .
Ore som Clomid Stuff..

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by The OutLord

First Cycle.
My oppinon!!

D-Bol 30mg ED ore Propionate 250/300mg EW And Tamoxifen 20mg ED and dont stopp with Tamoxifen after 1/2 week after you AAS cycle have ended..

Blasphamus! Pct for 1/2 week after cycle?!?!

My opinion based on knowledge and experience would be wait. Do not use for a couple of years while you train your base and adjust your diet. You could gain 10-20 pounds over the next two years naturally by eating properly.

**plzr8** · 11-06-2006, 02:32 PM

Week 1-10 Test E 500mg/week

Week 1-14 Arimidex (liquidex) .25mg ED
Week 11-14 Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED

You should stick to Test alone as your first cycle. You will still get very good results. If you take test susp, you will need to shoot ED as opposed to test E, twice a week.

**JohnboyF** · 11-06-2006, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by The OutLord

First Cycle.
My oppinon!!

D-Bol 30mg ED ore Propionate 250/300mg EW And Tamoxifen 20mg ED and dont stopp with Tamoxifen after 1/2 week after you AAS cycle have ended..

AAS Cycle 8 weeks.
End off week 8 and week 9 and week 10 500IU HCG .
Ore som Clomid Stuff..

WHy would you suggest Prop as first cycle? Everday/EOD injection can be bitch to even vets..

**The OutLord** · 11-06-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Blasphamus! Pct for 1/2 week after cycle?!?!

My opinion based on knowledge and experience would be wait. Do not use for a couple of years while you train your base and adjust your diet. You could gain 10-20 pounds over the next two years naturally by eating properly.

yes.. I agree.

**The OutLord** · 11-06-2006, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by FaizakaFez

WHy would you suggest Prop as first cycle? Everday/EOD injection can be bitch to even vets..

my falt... I was thinking on the mg Dos.

go for D-Bol instead.

**JohnboyF** · 11-06-2006, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by The OutLord

yes.. I agree.

U agree. yet to you tell him to use prop at 250 mg a week...

**JohnboyF** · 11-06-2006, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by The OutLord

my falt... I was thinking on the mg Dos.

go for D-Bol instead.

DBOl and?

**nrobleski** · 11-06-2006, 02:41 PM

go with test enth or cyp at 500mg a week for 10 weeks, nothing fancy man, trust me its the only way to go for getting your feet wet. Add some ameridex to ward off water retention or winstrol if needs be. Run a solid pct wait 3 months and see what you feel like

**Bigmax** · 11-06-2006, 02:42 PM

Bro,The cycle is not what you need to be doing right now...How is your injury now???Mesomorphyl is on the money with his advise.

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by FaizakaFez

DBOl and?

You either caught him or he is trying to learn the language. I will be kind and say it is a mix.

**TJC 02** · 11-06-2006, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Bro,The cycle is not what you need to be doing right now...How is your injury now???Mesomorphyl is on the money with his advise.

thanks for the advice. My injury is ok now, it actually had nothing to do with my upper body(i tore my ACL and MCL) ,but just couldnt get myself into the gym.

the reason i picked this cycle was becuase I hear it is one of the best cycles for beginner steroid users

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by TJC 02

thanks for the advice. My injury is ok now, it actually had nothing to do with my upper body(i tore my ACL and MCL) ,but just couldnt get myself into the gym.

the reason i picked this cycle was becuase I hear it is one of the best cycles for beginner steroid users

Hold off for injury sake as well... working out getting stronger while tendons and ligiments are healing or cannot keep up with muscles is another injury waiting to happen.

**Bigmax** · 11-06-2006, 02:52 PM

Well, actually you're better off going with 1 compound to see how your body reacts to AAS...as far as using testE for a first thats BS!!! you can use other test esters they make take more frequency of injections...Like sus and prop would be taken EOD(at this level) where cyp and Enan would be used twice a week.

**nrobleski** · 11-06-2006, 02:52 PM

sustanon is hard to keep stable levels although good bang for buck

**Bigmax** · 11-06-2006, 02:53 PM

However I will stick to my first post where you should WAIT and go on growing naturally first!!!

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-06-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

However I will stick to my first post where you should WAIT and go on growing naturally first!!!

Bingo!

**cleared4theoption** · 11-06-2006, 03:21 PM

If you are going to do it, do 12 weeks of test E. It would be better not to do dbol or sust on your first cycle. Stick with something simple the first time and see how your body reacts.