what causes back pumps?

[rhed]

Did two cycles of SD in the past. And I must say I can tolerate all the other sides from it. But damm... lower back pumps is a b!@@tch at times. I really wanna know what's causing this and what's really being affected. And does Dbol give back pumps too?

[notorious_mem]

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[Growingpains]

That's a good question. Bump for responses.

[godkilla]

i hate back pumps!

[rar1015]

Back pumps suck ass!

[MrMe]

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Would like to know the answer..

[V_Vandetta]

I used to get real bad lower back pumps.. it's the Lumbar muscles Now as i am sure there could be many reason for this .. what i have come to find and what cured me .. is training form .. how you preform serten exercises .. puts pressure strain to the lower back lubar area thus pumping blood ... now like I said a lot plays a part IMO like past work history pressure to L-3 L-4 disks ( i think thats the disks not sure ) ... But wearing a weight belt can help .. also the right stretching pre work out can help ...

for me Once I learned proper lifting technics .. it made the lower back lumbar pumps less and than with the right training building the lower lumbar .. I almost never get lower back pumps .. but still from time to time I get them .. only from squats .. not keeping my back streight ... lifting weight that is to heavy talking away from the propper form ... thus applying added pressure and strain to the lower back ...

I am sure others have ideas .. But this help me Greatly with lower lumbar pumps

[rhed]

I notice when I was off the SD cycles my back pumps seems to go away. Hmm, I was wondering... Could it be the excessive weight in a excelerated time (when on a cycle) the upper body gains? And that the lower back is put on more stress cause of the weight? Because for me it hurts more when I'm sitting down or driving. Dammm it's uncomfortable...Maybe it takes time for the lower back muscles to get use too. Hmm, I do back extensions but still hurts. Anyone have other answers?

[notorious_mem]

im on a phera plex cycle and ive gotten back pumps quite a few times.hurts like hell id like to know why?

[rhed]

does this happen only with orals or it's the same with injection types. Can't say for injection myself cause haven't tried it yet...

[magic32]

Things that make you go hmmm...

• Have you ever experienced ANY other muscle pump to such an overwhelmingly, painfully debilitating degree?
• Did you EVER, even ONCE, get this so-called-back pump before aas? More specifically, and with far more prevalence while on certain orals?
• Ever notice how very specific the area is? So specific some even say it’s really the Erector Spinae (or Sacrospinalis in older texts), but it’s not.
• And why is this one, unlike other pumps, so inconsolable (by massage, heat, relaxation, etc.)? Yeah they work a little but not really, nor should a pump require such treatments…ever had to do this to your triceps?
• Some believe it to be the extreme strain placed on the region during such heavy work as squats and standing calf raises, but it even happens apart weight bearing days. We all know pumps are mutually exclusive of one another. That is to say yesterday’s workout cannot influence today’s pump.
• Others subscribe to the lumbar injury philosophy. However when the, used loosely “pump” recedes, why are other activities such as sports completely unaffected by these allegedly damaged discs and skeletal misalignments?

It has been argued, and very well I might add, that this syndrome is not a back "pump" at all.
Hate to hint and run but I gotta fly for now, hopefully Vet or Mod will explain in the interim.

M.

[rhed]

After my last cycle of SD back pains or back pumps seem to go away. And the funny thing about it is when my back pumps where gone I started to think that I'm not gaining anything again. Just buy clean diet and hard training without PH. In other words "naturaly" And oh yea, on or off, my training stays the same. Just that my back pains or pumps goes away when off. It couldn't be my training or my form.....

[Maetenloch]

I've only ever gotten lower back pumps while using AAS or creatine. When I'm on a cycle, they can be so intense that I can't run more than a quarter mile without having to stop and stretch., so I usually stick to bicycle machines. I have a suspicion that it's caused by water swelling putting pressure on a nerve, but no real evidence. It is remarkably specific in which muscles it affects, though.

[perfectbeast2001]

What I thought was lower back pump actually turned out to be sciatic nerve problem. It gets worse with certain AS. Dbol and Masteron were killers for me.

[rhed]

And why is it that supplementing with taurine seem to help most of the time but not always? Could it be a placebo effect?

[rhed]

What I thought was lower back pump actually turned out to be sciatic nerve problem. It gets worse with certain AS. Dbol and Masteron were killers for me.

Oh dang, and Dbol with test E is what I was planning for my first "Real Gear" cycle...

[Giants11]

Things that make you go hmmm...

• Have you ever experienced ANY other muscle pump to such an overwhelmingly, painfully debilitating degree?
• Did you EVER, even ONCE, get this so-called-back pump before aas? More specifically, and with far more prevalence while on certain orals?
• Ever notice how very specific the area is? So specific some even say it’s really the Erector Spinae (or Sacrospinalis in older texts), but it’s not.
• And why is this one, unlike other pumps, so inconsolable (by massage, heat, relaxation, etc.)? Yeah they work a little but not really, nor should a pump require such treatments…ever had to do this to your triceps?
• Some believe it to be the extreme strain placed on the region during such heavy work as squats and standing calf raises, but it even happens apart weight bearing days. We all know pumps are mutually exclusive of one another. That is to say yesterday’s workout cannot influence today’s pump.
• Others subscribe to the lumbar injury philosophy. However when the, used loosely “pump” recedes, why are other activities such as sports completely unaffected by these allegedly damaged discs and skeletal misalignments?

It has been argued, and very well I might add, that this syndrome is not a back "pump" at all.
Hate to hint and run but I gotta fly for now, hopefully Vet or Mod will explain in the interim.

M.

I believe Magic is reffering to the fact that the issue is a Kidney problem, not back pumps.

[Rictor33]

dbols. Mt1 as well..

[rhed]

Also I'm currently experiencing back pumps now. But I'm not on anykind of PH or AS. For 2 months now I've been on CEE and jungle warfare (JW @ 4 cps/day). And before I got on these supplements I didn't have the back pumps or pains or whatever it's called...

[Tank75]

i felt like the backpains I got from DBOL were from the water retention and the extra weight I was supporting from upper body gains. I noticed these back pains at only 30mg ED so I lowered it to 25mg ED and it seemed to help alleviate the problem better than any stretching or heating could. I have never had the back pains while off of AS so I feel that they are most likely the cause of the pain.

i would like to try and use TBOL for my next cycle to see if the less water retention will help keep the discomfort away.

[Project]

I believe Magic is reffering to the fact that the issue is a Kidney problem, not back pumps.

While I hate to admit it, I would have to lean towards this theory as well.

[dougeazy]

might sound stupid...but what are back pumps...or pumps in general?

[RA]

I believe Magic is reffering to the fact that the issue is a Kidney problem, not back pumps.

People say that but you have to pay attention to where the pump is coming from. Kidneys are higher then people generally believe they are.

[rhed]

While I hate to admit it, I would have to lean towards this theory as well.

You know come to think about it..After my first SD cycle I got blood work done. Everything was ok except that my liver was elevated. BTW, I took all the supporting supps and drank 1-1-1/2 gals of H20 a day throughout the whole cycle including PCt. And yea, liver still was elevated.
Anyway doc was a little concerned so he sent me to get a ultrasound to check my liver and "kidneys". I ask the doctor during the procedure what he was looking for in the kidney's. He said that he checking to see if it was inflamed.
Anyway everything was fine but he was still concerned of the liver. So I finally told him what I took.
SD is some pretty harsh sh!t.
But I still don't know if kidney's and back pumps or pains are relavent. Anyone else have different opinions or answers?