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    Exclamation I Am So Confused! Help!

    Im a newbe here.
    Since i joined this forum i am more confused than ever!
    I have 30mls of sus250 in my draw that i plan on using for my first cycle next week.
    At this point sus250 is the only gear i can get my hands on (gear aint so easy to find in australia)
    Everyone here is telling me something different!
    They say dont use sus, use sus but inject it every 3 days, use sus but inject in EOD, inject 500mg a week, inject 250mg twice a week and so on....
    Now i just dont know what to do....

    Please help me.

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    if it was me i would inject 250mg twice a week for 12 weeks then good pct for my first cycle, however i dont know your stats. I am 30 years old, hopefully you are of proper age and bf and health.

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    im 22 years old, 5'11", bodybuilding for 3-4 years. Started at 140pounds and now weigh 246pounds clean. BF is about 14%.
    this will be my first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addy
    im 22 years old, 5'11", bodybuilding for 3-4 years. Started at 140pounds and now weigh 246pounds clean. BF is about 14%.
    this will be my first cycle.
    wow thats great natural. if you must try steroids at your age i recommend waiting a few years,then go for 250mg twice a week for 12 weeks. shoot mon and thurs this way the levels stay constant in your body, in 3 weeks of this you should see some results if your eating right.

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    whereabouts in australia do you live???

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    im in melbourne
    Last edited by Addy; 11-09-2006 at 01:09 AM.

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    Thanks for the advice Junky....
    But i also read that for blood levels to stay constant u need to inject EOD or ED. And if i do that ill be injecting close to 1000mg a week. Many people here say thats way to much for a first cycle.
    This is my confusion. So many different opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addy
    Thanks for the advice Junky....
    But i also read that for blood levels to stay constant u need to inject EOD or ED. And if i do that ill be injecting close to 1000mg a week. Many people here say thats way to much for a first cycle.
    This is my confusion. So many different opinions.
    your welcome
    thats alot for your first cycle . i gave you my advice.you could also do half a cc every two days 500mg a week is plenty i would not do it all in one shot nor would i spread it out to 5 shots a week. thats just my opinion.

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    250 e3d is good .you will grow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addy
    Im a newbe here.
    Since i joined this forum i am more confused than ever!
    I have 30mls of sus250 in my draw that i plan on using for my first cycle next week.
    At this point sus250 is the only gear i can get my hands on (gear aint so easy to find in australia)
    Everyone here is telling me something different!
    They say dont use sus, use sus but inject it every 3 days, use sus but inject in EOD, inject 500mg a week, inject 250mg twice a week and so on....
    Now i just dont know what to do....

    Please help me.
    Amps or vials ???

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    vials

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    For first cycle i wouldnt reccomend sustanon with the diff esters..I would do a single acting ester to see how the body reacts..but if thas all you can get then i would do it like said above shoot twice a week total 500mgs i have done a similar cycle got great results..ljust make sure to have your pct ready and nolva or some anti e on hand just in case...

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    thanx for the advise pigrond & italianman....yeah i got my nolvadex and PCT is all sorted out.
    What do you think about adding dbol for the first 4 weeks of the cycle for a kickstart?

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    Dude you are confused because you dont understand the compound you are going to use. Sust is made up of four different Test's, they are all Test, they just have different Esters attached to them. An Ester is kind of a slow release chemical that varies the speed at which the Test is released into the body.

    A fast Ester like Proprionate will release over a number of hours, the other three over longer periods.

    So to get the most out of the Sust you should shoot EOD. If you dont care about the short ester then twice a week is fine. Its simply a question of getting the most bang for your buck. You can do it either way and get results.

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    Yeah im aware of the fast and slow esters.
    Just not sure what dosage i should be shooting and how often. i was orginally goin to shoot 250mg twice a week.
    If i was to shoot EOD then what dosage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addy
    Yeah im aware of the fast and slow esters.
    Just not sure what dosage i should be shooting and how often. i was orginally goin to shoot 250mg twice a week.
    If i was to shoot EOD then what dosage?
    OK so you are basing everything on 500mg a week. If you shoot twice a week its 250mg if its EOD its 125mg. Just remember EOD is Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun, Tue, Thur, Sat, Mon and so on

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    Sounds on target.

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    thanx for the info.....
    but with injecting so little EOD are you realy takeing advantage of the short esters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addy
    thanx for the info.....
    but with injecting so little EOD are you realy takeing advantage of the short esters?
    Excellent question !!! In sust 250mg the Prop is 30mg of that. To get the most out of Prop it should be shot ED not EOD, bur EOD will do. You will get more out of it EOD than twice a week thats for sure. A lot of guys dont like thr frequent injections (I love them ). Where in Melbourne are you ?

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    thanx for that kale.
    im in Caulfield

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    i'm in doncaster

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    I was in Langwarrin and will be over Xmas

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    well there goes my cycle!
    went and saw an endocrinologist about some inconsistencies in my blood work and turns out i have a hypo pituitary gland, hypo thyroid and nat tests levels are very low .
    The quack said it might be a tumor or just a very slugish pituitary.
    The good news is if it aint a tumor i qualify for a free sus shot every 2 weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addy
    well there goes my cycle!
    went and saw an endocrinologist about some inconsistencies in my blood work and turns out i have a hypo pituitary gland, hypo thyroid and nat tests levels are very low .
    The quack said it might be a tumor or just a very slugish pituitary.
    The good news is if it aint a tumor i qualify for a free sus shot every 2 weeks!
    Dude even if it is a tumor which is unlikely they are nearly always benign ie not cancer.

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    yeah thats what the doc said....
    i guess it explains why im so fatigued all the time......

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    You getting a CT scan or an MRI ? If so where ?

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    yeah im getting a CT scan early next week in elsternwick.

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