when do the side effects (acne, hairloss..) usually occur?

[gehirin]

Do you experience acne, hairloss, ect... during your cycle or post cycle?

Given that dbol doesn't convert to DHT and that it's ran for about 4 months, would it be less prone to causing hairloss compared to test?

Thanks for your help

G

[shifty_git]

Do you experience acne, hairloss, ect... during your cycle or post cycle?

Given that dbol doesn't convert to DHT and that it's ran for about 4 months, would it be less prone to causing hairloss compared to test?

Thanks for your help

G

4 months!?!?!

[gehirin]

sorry, I meant 4 weeks as the kick start to a test only cycle.

[Bigun]

I get my acne etc during pct, and have less spots on cycle!

[plzr8]

generally if you run a cycle too long or during/after pct

[gehirin]

I know pct is used to limit the amount of muscle loss after stopping AS but how does it help with side effects? Which drugs of pct limit the amount of acne and such after a cycle has ended? I get really bad acne on my shoulders and thinning hair with some hairloss (this after a 12wk test, 1st 4wk dbol cycle with pct). It's been 4 months since the end of my cycle and I still get a lot of acne and hairloss...does it last this long? How can I minimize this???

Thanks everyone for the help

[donniebrasco]

for hairloss:
finasteride, dutasteride - oral solution available from arr. once started should use for ever.
topical solution such spiro should be used during cycle and pct.
nizoral ( shampoo ) or similiar could be used permanetly.
minoxidil, many variations available, such as strength and additional additives such as azleic acid, retonic acid etc. once treatment is started it should be used continually.
your hairloss maybe as a result of age, are other members of your family bald etc

[gehirin]

I've been using nizoral. Don't know how well it's helping. Also taking some saw palmetto.

My grandfather on my mom's side was bald. None on my dad's side. Don't know if the gene was passed on from my mom since supposedly it's a x-linked trait.

Just don't understand why after 4 months I still get bad acne on my shoulders.

Isn't hairloss related to DHT and if I'm not injecting test, where is this DHT coming from (I know from natural test comes DHT but I thought with the injections, I would experience more of the side effects at the time during the cycle and not 4 months later).

[king6]

Finastride and Dutastride wont do anything for dbol . Dbol wont convert to DHT. Which is what finastride and duta prevent. Dbol is androgenic which is where the hairloss comes in. Nizoral, and spiro would be a good choice. Also a lower dose of dbol would help as well.

[gehirin]

what's best for acne? Retin-A? Does pct help limit this or is pct just for keep gains?

And hairloss...I've read that var, primobolan , deca , and turinabol don't cause hairloss. Any opinions on this?

Thanks

G

[BigNate]

As for controlling acne Accutane is definately the way to go.

[king6]

That stuff that puff daddy and jessica simpson use is pretty good I think.
I beleive its called proactive.

[03SvtCobra]

That stuff that puff daddy and jessica simpson use is pretty good I think.
I beleive its called proactive.

Which works great! I'm currently using that just for normal use but will be using it one more time during the day. Can't say enough about it.

[king6]

How much is it? I might have to pick some up for my test and dbol cycle.

[03SvtCobra]

How much is it? I might have to pick some up for my test and dbol cycle.

It's around $50 for like 1-2 month supply, they automatically send/bill u another one until you cancel it.