oral Test , can't do needles

**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 01:09 PM

yeah i don't do needles, so what as a good oral t, (i don't plan on just starting it once i read what it is..i plan on researching it after i see some names) i plan on doing a dbol and t (OH GOD 2 ORALS) at low doses plus milkthistle for my liver even though i know they don't mess with it at a low steady dose. and im thinking Nolvadex for my pct...anyone suggest anything else?

**goose** · 11-09-2006, 01:12 PM

What wrong with needles ? After your first few it`s really easy.

**Venum** · 11-09-2006, 01:13 PM

do you know a good doctor to put a new liver in for you?

**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 01:21 PM

ok, then what about a natural test booster? would that have any huge impact on my liver? or would it just not do anything?

**juicepig** · 11-09-2006, 01:27 PM

heres a suggestion.. dont be a pussy, shoot yourself with a needle.. not only are oral only cycles a waste of time.. theres no keep gains, plus your turning your insides into toxic waste!

**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 01:33 PM

your right, if i take a high dose......but becuase im smart, i take a low dose...becuase i don't want to put on 300 pounds in a week.....so....back to my orignal question...anyone?

**C_Bino** · 11-09-2006, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by evilsteve02

your right, if i take a high dose......but becuase im smart, i take a low dose...becuase i don't want to put on 300 pounds in a week.....so....back to my orignal question...anyone?

Dont want to put on 300lbs in a week. I guarantee you dont even put on 3 lbs in a week unless its water and fat.

Andriol is you only option and if you cant do needles get another hobby cuz AAS arent for you.

**beuleux** · 11-09-2006, 01:56 PM

Wassup you think if you do needles your some big bad-ass cheatin roid junkie but if you do orals somehow thats ok or are you just scared of sticking yourself

**notorious_mem** · 11-09-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by evilsteve02

your right, if i take a high dose......but becuase im smart, i take a low dose...becuase i don't want to put on 300 pounds in a week.....so....back to my orignal question...anyone?

if i remember right ther is a pill form of test but its extremely hard to find.check out the steroid profile forum and search through there.

**Tren Bull** · 11-09-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by notorious_mem

if i remember right ther is a pill form of test but its extremely hard to find.check out the steroid profile forum and search through there.

i thought superdrol was basically oral test

**Tren Bull** · 11-09-2006, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by juicepig

heres a suggestion.. dont be a pussy, shoot yourself with a needle.. not only are oral only cycles a waste of time.. theres no keep gains, plus your turning your insides into toxic waste!

my last cycle was all oral, and i kept at least 15 pounds of solid muscle from it... but then again i took a sh_t load of winstrol and tbol, plus my pct included clenbuterol

**Ufa** · 11-09-2006, 02:11 PM

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**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 02:17 PM

im not saying that if i do orals im not cheating, cheating is cheating...period...i just don't like needles, and i don' treally know anyone who would inject me nor would i want someone to, it makes me sick thinking about it, if that makes me a pussy, im a pussy...so like i said..i'd like to take a pill test, or if a thing that makes u produce test naturally is ok to use with it, id do that. i just have read so many things about dbol and half of them say different things. i figure at a low dose it won't hurt me to take dbol and test, and im not even talking dbol the whole cycle just the first 4 weeks. its' gonna be an 8 or 9 week cycle. i haven't decided yet. but i figured there has to be a pill form of test out there.

**hardgainer12** · 11-09-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by juicepig

heres a suggestion.. dont be a pussy, shoot yourself with a needle.. not only are oral only cycles a waste of time.. theres no keep gains, plus your turning your insides into toxic waste!

everything you just wrote is incorrect. how could u say they are a waste? no gains huh? ever heard of M1T? if hes afraid of needles then maybe suggest any pill forms of test u know. if not, dont give false information. its so hard to get a straight answer on this forum

**Agrajaz** · 11-09-2006, 02:17 PM

First time i wanted to inject myself i wimped out and had to get a friend to do it. No problems doing it myself after that, like the man said just get a friend to help.

**Tren Bull** · 11-09-2006, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by evilsteve02

im not saying that if i do orals im not cheating, cheating is cheating...period...i just don't like needles, and i don' treally know anyone who would inject me nor would i want someone to, it makes me sick thinking about it, if that makes me a pussy, im a pussy...so like i said..i'd like to take a pill test, or if a thing that makes u produce test naturally is ok to use with it, id do that. i just have read so many things about dbol and half of them say different things. i figure at a low dose it won't hurt me to take dbol and test, and im not even talking dbol the whole cycle just the first 4 weeks. its' gonna be an 8 or 9 week cycle. i haven't decided yet. but i figured there has to be a pill form of test out there.

man, if you want to do an all oral stack, then try running winstrol and tbol together. thatl get you noticably bigger and more defined assuming your diet, training and pct are good

**hardgainer12** · 11-09-2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by evilsteve02

im not saying that if i do orals im not cheating, cheating is cheating...period...i just don't like needles, and i don' treally know anyone who would inject me nor would i want someone to, it makes me sick thinking about it, if that makes me a pussy, im a pussy...so like i said..i'd like to take a pill test, or if a thing that makes u produce test naturally is ok to use with it, id do that. i just have read so many things about dbol and half of them say different things. i figure at a low dose it won't hurt me to take dbol and test, and im not even talking dbol the whole cycle just the first 4 weeks. its' gonna be an 8 or 9 week cycle. i haven't decided yet. but i figured there has to be a pill form of test out there.

hey bro i dont know any pill forms for test but maybe reasearch some prohormones like superdrol or phera plex. theyre cheap and they work. there are a couple logs on these products and the results are pretty good.

**Tren Bull** · 11-09-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Agrajaz

First time i wanted to inject myself i wimped out and had to get a friend to do it. No problems doing it myself after that, like the man said just get a friend to help.

i remember the first time i shot up some test blend 400...

i filled the syringe, looked at my quad for 2 seconds, then rammed the needle in. fu_k the pain, cause it aint sh_t anyway. do what you gotta do to get swole

**beuleux** · 11-09-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by evilsteve02

im not saying that if i do orals im not cheating, cheating is cheating...period...i just don't like needles, and i don' treally know anyone who would inject me nor would i want someone to, it makes me sick thinking about it, if that makes me a pussy, im a pussy...so like i said..i'd like to take a pill test, or if a thing that makes u produce test naturally is ok to use with it, id do that. i just have read so many things about dbol and half of them say different things. i figure at a low dose it won't hurt me to take dbol and test, and im not even talking dbol the whole cycle just the first 4 weeks. its' gonna be an 8 or 9 week cycle. i haven't decided yet. but i figured there has to be a pill form of test out there.

Good luck with your oral cycle... dont be offended by the pussy jibes, its just funny bc we were all like about that about needles at first. Youll cross over to the dark side when your ready.

**Ufa** · 11-09-2006, 02:25 PM

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**Schmidty** · 11-09-2006, 02:27 PM

If ur that scared of shooting up id say find some m1t for ur test base and mybe some dbol but really you should MAN UP AND SHOOT UP

**SS1476** · 11-09-2006, 02:32 PM

How old are you evil?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 11-09-2006, 02:33 PM

Stick with supplements

**hardgainer12** · 11-09-2006, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ufa

hardgainer12--What do you think of Androstenedione?

isnt that just an oral form of test? like M1T.

**Tren Bull** · 11-09-2006, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by hardgainer12

isnt that just an oral form of test? like M1T.

i heard androstene is actually more similar to estrogen than test

**cleared4theoption** · 11-09-2006, 03:24 PM

You really shouldnt be around gear if you can't "do needles". Hurts less than a liver transplant. But then again I wouldnt know because my liver still works fine.

**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 03:26 PM

im 24....anyways, phera plex looks very available, i doubt manufacturer matters...but i'll look it up and see. i know becuase im not using a real test with the dbol im not gonna get amazing gains i would if i did, but this is my first time using something like this and i want to see what it's all about.

**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 03:55 PM

what would be a good cycle for dbol and phera plex? and what would be a good thing to take for my ptc? j

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 11-09-2006, 03:58 PM

I'll say it one more time (for those who havent read it before)

IF YOU ARENT READY FOR NEEDLES-YOU ARENT READY FOR AAS. simple.
eat a lot & hit the weights.

**notorious_mem** · 11-09-2006, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by evilsteve02

what would be a good cycle for dbol and phera plex? and what would be a good thing to take for my ptc? j

in my opinion stick with the phera plex im up 13 pounds in 3 weeks with it.I know it works and quickly.After you get these results i think the needle will seem worth it for bigger and better gains than what u just got off the pp.does that make sense? we just had a knock out fight over orals and inj steroids a couple days ago scroll down and check out the orals only cycle and liver replacement by gsxxr.

**notorious_mem** · 11-09-2006, 04:04 PM

clomid for pct

***perfectbeast2001*** · 11-09-2006, 04:05 PM

Your only hope would be Andriol but be warned to keep blood levels stable you would need to dose every couple of hours or so. Due to this being impossible (unless you set your alarm multople times at night) you may find you are more prone to sides associated with unstable blood levels (such as acne). I would say stay away from AS until you can use a needle.

**king6** · 11-09-2006, 04:09 PM

Its all about commitment. If your willing to risk getting charged with a felony, and possibly to jail time just obtaining AAS. Then a little pinch should not matter. But I can understand how feel. Just remember mind over matter. Take a deep breath and when you stick yourself blow it all out. Then aspirate of course.

**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 04:15 PM

well i'd love to just not take dbol , but i already bought it off a guy who im friends with who has taken it by itself. so that's my delema

**king6** · 11-09-2006, 04:21 PM

Thats the perfect oppertunity to get some Test e. test e and dbol is a great cycle.

**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 04:26 PM

hmmm good call, ok can i get test e in an oral, becuse i can't do injections. but back to the oral being bad for your liver...yeah i understand if your doing a long cycle and your using a high dose its going to be bad for yoru liver...but too much of a nything is bad for you, if you take 1,000 g of creatine for a long period ur gonna get kidney stones, if you **** too much w/o a condom on your dick is eventially going to fall off from ****ing some nasty skank. i just can't see how if you take the right things (milkthistle,grape seed) and use a low dose and keep a short cycle (6 weeks at the most) how anything bad could happen. unless i have a genetic defect already. in that case if i took anything i'd be bad.

**king6** · 11-09-2006, 04:35 PM

Not that I'm aware of. I doubt it would even be that effective. Why is injectables not an option?

**cleared4theoption** · 11-09-2006, 04:36 PM

If you can't stand to stick yourself then have a friend do it. Otherwise, creatine is a pretty good supplement and IMO NO2 isnt too bad either. Eat + Sleep.

**evilsteve02** · 11-09-2006, 04:39 PM

i've lifted for 8 years...i've already taken pretty much everything except roids....so that's pretyt much it...and if you know anyone who will stick me then sure, but i don't know anyone who would stick me...so...no injectables.

**king6** · 11-09-2006, 04:39 PM

If your hard set on an oral only, you might try looking into Anavar . I have also heard people had good results with OT. I have also heard of people stacking OT and DBOL , but that has bad idea written all over it.

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