recently recovered drug addict. are steroids mind altering drugs.

[mateo112]

hey i am coming up on one year of sobriety this weekend and wanted to know if steroids are a mind altering substance. i was wondering because going through a drug rehab center, they tell you that to to remain sober you have to reframe from taking any mind altering substance. steroids are hormones that you put into your body but does that mean they mess with your mind also. putting in the hard work i want to remain sober and if steroids fall in that category then i will not take them. i'm only 19 and won't be cycling anytime soon anyway. i just wanted to see what everyone thinks because my family totally thinks that me taking steroids would would mean i am no longer sober.

[perfectbeast2001]

I definately think that you could swap a previous substance addiction for an AS addiction. I don't know if they are classed as mind altering but i do know they can be pschologically addictive.

[mateo112]

definatly understand they are phycologically addicting. that could have a bad effect on me also.

[cj1capp]

First off good job on the one year mark.
what kind of drugs did you do? if it involed needles i would say stay away from roids. i say this because as i my self am in recovery , 12 years now i know how the ritual of getting high can be a trigger all by its self. that is the actions needed to get high. For me i would get my glass mirror out and lighter to smoke. latter in recovery i realized that the mere action of striking the lighter would make me want to go get high . If your use involed needles , well you sobriety is every thing and not worth the chance of facking it up.

[perfectbeast2001]

beware not to name any rec drugs here guys.

[Schmidty]

im a addict also i did a cycle.Steroids and exerise are my anti drug

[mateo112]

right on cj. congrats on your 12 years, i'll be there on day. i pm'd you.

[mateo112]

im a addict also i did a cycle.Steroids and exerise are my anti drug

yeah exactly.thats what i'm doing. diet and exercise being something that can take up almost all your free time with cooking resting working out, i think this is the only way i'm able to stay sober. so you think that steroids are ok and wouldn't mess with my sobriety

[stuball]

First off good job on the one year mark.
what kind of drugs did you do? if it involed needles i would say stay away from roids. i say this because as i my self am in recovery , 12 years now i know how the ritual of getting high can be a trigger all by its self. that is the actions needed to get high. For me i would get my glass mirror out and lighter to smoke. latter in recovery i realized that the mere action of striking the lighter would make me want to go get high . If your use involed needles , well you sobriety is every thing and not worth the chance of facking it up.

First one year, great job keep it up, no major changes in the first year right ?? Im also in recovery 4 1/2 years, when i did my first cycle last year the f'n addict came out in me, i just didnt want to stop !!! Not mind altering, but we are addict's that means eveything, switching addictions is very easy, not dissing ya bro but your only 19, you dont need it, and you have to watch whats gonna kick your shit up !!! i seen to many people relaspe after one year, they think they are cured, one year is huge your gotta be proud of yourself, but your also young and its harder i think for young people to stay clean, i was 39 when i got sober, you dont need to wait that long.. Ask you sponser and see what he says We can only guide you and give you suggestions, and CJ, 12 years bro WOW, thats great, LIFE IS GREAT DONT FVCK IT UP !!!

[mateo112]

jeez i know. being young and staying sober is not an easy thing at all. i totally understand you saying i'm to young right now and i totally agree. i like how you say watch what stirs your shit up, thats a good thing to think about and me cycling when and if i do could bring out the bad in me. very nice advice. right on stuball

[stuball]

jeez i know. being young and staying sober is not an easy thing at all. i totally understand you saying i'm to young right now and i totally agree. i like how you say watch what stirs your shit up, thats a good thing to think about and me cycling when and if i do could bring out the bad in me. very nice advice. right on stuball

If you get this at 19, and you can, you are a miracle, one suggestion... I know you wont want to hear this but if your friends are partying i suggest you be careful, peer presure is very tough, so if you put all the efford into training and dieting that you put into partying your gonna blow the fvck up..

[mateo112]

If you get this at 19, and you can, you are a miracle, one suggestion... I know you wont want to hear this but if your friends are partying i suggest you be careful, peer presure is very tough, so if you put all the efford into training and dieting that you put into partying your gonna blow the fvck up..

shoot i don't even like to go out to partys anymore. you find someone that doesn't mind one bit being around a bunch of drunk obnoxious people, then you found a diamond in the ruff. as far as people my age it just isn't fun going out with them. i'm sure it's different in the older more mature crowd just because of the maturity.

[SS1476]

To me it sounds like you have a good
head on your shoulders,set that goal
and I'm sure you'll get there,no worries.
Congrats on your year,and many more.

Congrats to Cj

Great advice stuball

[Schmidty]

yeah exactly.thats what i'm doing. diet and exercise being something that can take up almost all your free time with cooking resting working out, i think this is the only way i'm able to stay sober. so you think that steroids are ok and wouldn't mess with my sobriety

well even when im off cycle im sober.So i think ur ok and ur on a good path
how long have you been sober

[Schmidty]

oh one year im retarded.that is great keep it up

[mateo112]

it will be one year on saturday. damn i get butterflys when i think about getting my coin

[Hellmaskbanned]

Steroids will change you if you chose them to do so.
Weak minded people, use it as an excuse to act crazy.
If your only 19 and have had problems with drugs, addictions, and behavior, taking these powerful hormones will just lead you onto another path of destruction.

[mateo112]

Steroids will change you if you chose them to do so.
Weak minded people, use it as an excuse to act crazy.
If your only 19 and have had problems with drugs, addictions, and behavior, taking these powerful hormones will just lead you onto another path of destruction.

totally understand what you are saying. i won't cycle until i'm ready. what you are saying though is steroids only get to people if they let them.

[stuball]

shoot i don't even like to go out to partys anymore. you find someone that doesn't mind one bit being around a bunch of drunk obnoxious people, then you found a diamond in the ruff. as far as people my age it just isn't fun going out with them. i'm sure it's different in the older more mature crowd just because of the maturity.

Drunks are drunks, but i had to find different friends, and when i do go out i now know when to leave, i just give you so much credit, if you told me at 19 to go to rehab or i had a problem i would tell you to f off.. To surrender to something is very hard to do..

[mateo112]

Drunks are drunks, but i had to find different friends, and when i do go out i now know when to leave, i just give you so much credit, if you told me at 19 to go to rehab or i had a problem i would tell you to f off.. To surrender to something is very hard to do..

ya your telling me. i'm like you and if i do go to some party, i won't end up staying longer then just to say hello and get in a few conversations. after that i've had enough. i'm not there for what everyone else is there for, to get f#cked up.

[stuball]

it will be one year on saturday. damn i get butterflys when i think about getting my coin

I know this is a steroid forum but i think this is a must, Dude it's people like you that keep me sober !! I cant forget where i came from, so when you get that coin, remember 1 year or 20 years, we all go at it the same way, one day at a time .. You at 19 y/o are a inspiration to everyone in that room...And right now to me ..

[mateo112]

right on stuball. ya i guess this thread did get a little off subject. the question i was asking is if steroids would jackup my sobreity meaning if i cycled, would it mean i would have to forfeit my sobreity

[stuball]

right on stuball. ya i guess this thread did get a little off sublect. the question i was asking is if steroids would jackup my sobreity meaning if i cycled, would it mean i would have to forfeit my sobreity

Everyone is different like mentioned above you have to be strong minded, physically your to young, you just dont need it, so with time you can research for the future.. Its all good, your doin the right thing... Me personally my addiction effected my steroid use, when i hit a bar i had to get drunk as fast as possible, when i started my first cycle all i wanted to do was 200 mg's af cyp a week just to look a little better, needless to say i ended up doing way to much without concern of what effects it would have on me in the long run, so i stopped figured out the right way then took it from there..

[mateo112]

Everyone is different like mentioned above you have to be strong minded, physically your to young, you just dont need it, so with time you can research for the future.. Its all good, your doin the right thing... Me personally my addiction effected my steroid use, when i hit a bar i had to get drunk as fast as possible, when i started my first cycle all i wanted to do was 200 mg's af cyp a week just to look a little better, needless to say i ended up doing way to much without concern of what effects it would have on me in the long run, so i stopped figured out the right way then took it from there..

thats understandable. being an addict and all. thinking about it right now though i doubt i would do that just becuase i have got alot of disipline now, and wouldn't want to get any side effects that could damage my health. it's scary thinking about what could happen to a person if they don't do it the right way.

[stuball]

thats understandable. being an addict and all. thinking about it right now though i doubt i would do that just becuase i have got alot of disipline now, and wouldn't want to get any side effects that could damage my health. it's scary thinking about what could happen to a person if they don't do it the right way.

Well at 19 who knows if you stopped growing, if you start doin steroids you will, height wise that is.. Plus why shut down you natural test... You can grow naturally..

[BigNate]

I am a recovering alcoholic myself. It's amazing how many people on the board are in recovery. I know one thing that I have learned is that you can go anywhere and do anything as long as you are spirtually fit. The though part is knowing if you are or not. For me it was important to distinguish between wanting to change how I felt by using a chemical and making an educated decision to better myself beyond the point that I could obtain naturally. After I had researched for a long time and had been seriously training for a couple of years. I can tell you right now that people in my 12 step program view my use of AS as a relapse. I disagree and strive continually to find balance in my life. IMHO if I were you I would definately hold off on even considering gear at this point. Check out the diet threads and train hard you will be amazed. Give yourself sometime time get to know who you really are and let other people find out too. You have an exciting journey ahead. Keep yourself rooted in recovery, everything has a way of working itself out. Best of luck.

[stuball]

I am a recovering alcoholic myself. It's amazing how many people on the board are in recovery. I know one thing that I have learned is that you can go anywhere and do anything as long as you are spirtually fit. The though part is knowing if you are or not. For me it was important to distinguish between wanting to change how I felt by using a chemical and making an educated decision to better myself beyond the point that I could obtain naturally. After I had researched for a long time and had been seriously training for a couple of years. I can tell you right now that people in my 12 step program view my use of AS as a relapse. I disagree and strive continually to find balance in my life. IMHO if I were you I would definately hold off on even considering gear at this point. Check out the diet threads and train hard you will be amazed. Give yourself sometime time get to know who you really are and let other people find out too. You have an exciting journey ahead. Keep yourself rooted in recovery, everything has a way of working itself out. Best of luck.

Addict's use drugs and alcohol to escape, so do i consider it a relaspe ?? Yes !! To escape being a out of shape, 44 y/o !!! LOL !!!

[rar1015]

I never said this on this board before but i am a recovering addict. Ive been sober going on three years now. Mateo112, i have never had any problem with steroids. Everyone is different but if you eventually want to use steroids its up to you if you want to stay off drugs/alcohol. I personally dont see a problem for you to use them (in the future because you're to young right now). You have to actually want to stay off drugs/alcohol to stay off drugs/alcohol. If you think in your mind that it will be ok to smoke a little or snort one little line then your screwd IMO.

[Maximus_Pecs]

I've done various substances over the years and AAS and working out have always kept me away from them. I do not even want to drink when I'm on as I do not want to ruin all my hard work and gear. IF anything AAS makes me feel so good that I don't even want any substance other then a protein shake...

[stuball]

I never said this on this board before but i am a recovering heroin addict. Ive been sober going on three years now. Mateo112, i have never had any problem with steroids. Everyone is different but if you eventually want to use steroids its up to you if you want to stay off drugs/alcohol. I personally dont see a problem for you to use them (in the future because you're to young right now). You have to actually want to stay off drugs/alcohol to stay off drugs/alcohol. If you think in your mind that it will be ok to ***** a little or s**** one little **** then your screwd IMO.

( If you think in your mind that it will be ok to ***** a little or ****t one little **** then your screwd IMO.[/QUOTE]) Thats your opnion and a fact !!

[mateo112]

I am a recovering alcoholic myself. It's amazing how many people on the board are in recovery. I know one thing that I have learned is that you can go anywhere and do anything as long as you are spirtually fit. The though part is knowing if you are or not. For me it was important to distinguish between wanting to change how I felt by using a chemical and making an educated decision to better myself beyond the point that I could obtain naturally. After I had researched for a long time and had been seriously training for a couple of years. I can tell you right now that people in my 12 step program view my use of AS as a relapse. I disagree and strive continually to find balance in my life. IMHO if I were you I would definately hold off on even considering gear at this point. Check out the diet threads and train hard you will be amazed. Give yourself sometime time get to know who you really are and let other people find out too. You have an exciting journey ahead. Keep yourself rooted in recovery, everything has a way of working itself out. Best of luck.

yep. 1 is too many and 1000 is not enough. i don't plan on a cycle before the age of 23. it all depends on like you said how much i can gain naturally with diet and proper exercise.

[Hellmaskbanned]

To much rec. drug talk flowin hur on the open board.

[mateo112]

To much rec. drug talk flowin hur on the open board.

agreed. lets get back to my initial question. would taking steroids make me have to give up me labeling myself sober? Are they mind altering?

hellmask. do what you got to do if rules are being broken here. understand if this thread needs to be shut down.

[mkrulic]

there is allways error in making general statments. w/ that being said, if you abuse drugs you will abuse steroids. your best intentions will work as well for you as they did w/ the drugs

[slooby]

Man i really dont know about drugs to much partner but i would wait till u are 23 (like you said) and see how your feel then. see how far you have came in your recovery and see if it would be worth it to chance it or you might feel you are strong enough to do them. but only time will tell. whatever your choice i hope the best for you and God bless

[rar1015]

To much rec. drug talk flowin hur on the open board.

Sorry man i wasnt really paying attention to what i was really typing. It wont happen again.

[Aztec Warrior]

agreed. lets get back to my initial question. would taking steroids make me have to give up me labeling myself sober? Are they mind altering?

hellmask. do what you got to do if rules are being broken here. understand if this thread needs to be shut down.

Hey Mateo, I would honestly stay away from steroids if I was you. It's good that your sober and working out, but steroids ARE ADDICTING! Dont let anyone tell you otherwise. From the sounds of you probably have an addicting personality.I mean, You wont be offering a bj for Test. but once you get on it, it's hard to stop because it works so good. I've partied with everything back in my days but never really liked anything except maybe once a year a line of yayo if I was in Vegas and it was one of my top 3 friends birthday, and we had strippers...lol

[stuball]

If this thread is gonna continue lets stop saying drug names and slangs or its gonna get closed... Thanks

[mateo112]

If this thread is gonna continue lets stop saying drug names and slangs or its gonna get closed... Thanks

agreed

[helium3]

make take on this is that you are replacing one drug with another,regardless of the differences.but who am i.