liver health

[dougeazy]

Ive been reading through the forum- and I just ordered my test, dbol , winni, equi, and clomid. I noticed ALOT of the threads say stuff about pills messing with your insides especially the liver. If im stacking it with injectables, only taking dbol 6 weeks, and winni 4 weeks- am I pretty safe?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Ive been reading through the forum- and I just ordered my test, dbol, winni, equi, and clomid. I noticed ALOT of the threads say stuff about pills messing with your insides especially the liver. If im stacking it with injectables, only taking dbol 6 weeks, and winni 4 weeks- am I pretty safe?

What doses?

Liver toxicity is WAY overblown.
If your a healthy adult male, running intelligent doses you should be fine.
Bloodwork is the best way of seeing whats going on inside.

[dougeazy]

10 Week Cycle with 3 weeks Clomid as PCT

week 1-10 Deca 200mg/week
week 1-10 Test 400mg/week
week 1-6 Dianabol 50mg/ED
week 7-10 Winstrol 50mg/ED
week 10-13 Clomid 100mg/Ed

[C_Bino]

Ive been reading through the forum- and I just ordered my test, dbol, winni, equi, and clomid. I noticed ALOT of the threads say stuff about pills messing with your insides especially the liver. If im stacking it with injectables, only taking dbol 6 weeks, and winni 4 weeks- am I pretty safe?

Its hard to tell. You could have a pre-existing liver condition that we or even YOU dont know about. You could also be using other medication or substances such as alcohol that are hepatotoxic as well.

The only way to know for sure is to get blood work done. Anyone who give you a cut and dry answer is speculating, and if you believe it you are beleiving a random guess that some person you dont know from Charlie made on an internet site.

Also no offense and Im glad you are a member of our site. But you say you have been researching. Well just continue to do that. I think today alone you have started three very basic threads, read read read and figure some things out for yourself. It will make you much more knowledgeable. I mean I could have come in to this thread and said you will be perfectly fine, you would have believed it and went on with your cycle. Read read read and be smart.

[C_Bino]

10 Week Cycle with 3 weeks Clomid as PCT

week 1-10 Deca 200mg/week
week 1-10 Test 400mg/week
week 1-6 Dianabol 50mg/ED
week 7-10 Winstrol 50mg/ED
week 10-13 Clomid 100mg/Ed

Your PCT needs to be reworked.

[Hellmaskbanned]

10 Week Cycle with 3 weeks Clomid as PCT

week 1-10 Deca 200mg/week
week 1-10 Test 400mg/week
week 1-6 Dianabol 50mg/ED
week 7-10 Winstrol 50mg/ED
week 10-13 Clomid 100mg/Ed

Whoa Whoa Easy killer.....I just noticed your the same one who posted about needle scarring lol.

For a first cycle that is WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to many compounds.

Test only 400 or 500mgs for 10-12 weeks nothing more nothing less.

You desperatly need to research for your own good.

[shrpskn]

There are flaws in your cycle.

You want to run the test an additional week beyond your last deca injection and PCT should begin no earlier than 14 days after your last test injection, unless you are running prop or susp.

[ecivon]

Generally speaking pills are harder on the liver than injections, but not always. I have hep c from a bad transfusion in the field in the military and am getting ready to start my 4th cycle. I have used some compounds listed as liver toxic, but can tell when something is raising my serum levels. I have learned to pace it and fortunately I can get frequent testing and treatment at the VA where I live. Be careful as alpha-interferon chemo injections are not fun. Check out the following link: http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php
to see if the compound you are interested in is listed and provides details on hepatoxicity. Obviously though if someone users dirty needles they run a great risk of developing hepatitis.

[dougeazy]

thanks everyone

[dougeazy]

actually when i ordered the test and decca, the company stored the oils in little sachets and you take the oil all out at once and leave it in the needle and just use the same one...i thought this sounded REALLY unsafe and i ordered some extra needles.
*off topic for a second*
has anyone ever bought theyre juice that came out of little pouches or sachets?

[shrpskn]

actually when i ordered the test and decca, the company stored the oils in little sachets and you take the oil all out at once and leave it in the needle and just use the same one...i thought this sounded REALLY unsafe and i ordered some extra needles.

Smart move getting extra needles...never reuse a needle. NEVER.

has anyone ever bought theyre juice that came out of little pouches or sachets?

No. I have not and do not intend to ever do so.

-ShrpSkn

[ecivon]

I will never poke myself twice with the same needle, or use the same syringe and just change the needle, even if I was splitting a dose bilaterally on myself at precisely the same time. NEVER!!! Always use new gear for every single poke.

[dougeazy]

what about if i cleaned the syringe with alcohol....because i forgot those an i dont believe i can just waltz into walkmart and ask for syringes and needles

[ecivon]

Listen, never means just that, never. I wouldn't do it even if I had an autoclave. I don't know where you live but needles and syringes are cheap and can be bought in a zillion different places. Check on the internet and you'll find all kinds of good places.

[dougeazy]

thanks, im thinking blood work before midway and after.
good plan or more....maybe i shouldnt bother using the middle one.
opinions...remember this is my first injection cycle

[MrMe]

Sachets are fine. I would suggest you get some empty sterile vials from the sponsor here and transfer the oil to them.