Preparing Third Cycle

[NoFaith068]

Beginning to put together third cycle. Have talked to some people and have decided to switch things up a bit. I have decided to put on hard, long-lasting muscle, instead of the "hardcore bulk" cycle I was thinking of doing.

Here were my previous cycles

Cycle 1
500mg/Test E/10 Weeks
Cycle 2
500mg/Test E/12 Weeks
40mg/Dianabol ED/5 Weeks
375mg/Deca /11 Weeks

So far the third cycle I have:

750mg/Test E/12 Weeks
50mg/D-Bol ED/5 Weeks

I am also wanting to incorporate Tren and EQ into this cycle as I didn't really enjoy the Deca experience. Lowered libido, not much gains. What are some reccommendations for doing this? (dosage, length of dosage, etc.)

Current Stats:

Weight 175
Height 5'5"
BF% 13.7%

I am a hardgainer with a fast metabolism so calories are very high. Protein intake is around 350 grams daily.

[plzr8]

yah, thats why i prefer to stay away from deca myself. well in my opion, given your stats, i would include EQ but not tren . save tren for future cycles since this is only cycle #3.

Week 1-12 Test @ 700mg/week
Week 1-5 Dbol 50mg/ED
Week 1-12 Eq @ 500mg/week
Week 1-14 Armidex .25mg ED

Followed by proper PCT.

You should make some solid, keepable gains from this cycle. Personally, Im a big fan of this cycle. Good luck!

[NoFaith068]

Hey plzr, thanks for the reply.

I recieved the Tren suggestion from my trainer who is guiding me into my first show, but he suggested that I only take the Tren two times a week at 150mg each shot for ten weeks. This didn't sound right from the readings i've done here so I was just trying to get a more appropriate dosage.

Also, i'm glad you suggested the Arimidex . I was thinking of running this anyways.

[plzr8]

Well, what type of Tren are we talking about?

I would still not run tren on this cycle because i think with proper diet, you will get some really good results as is and it wont be too harsh on your body IMO which will help ease things for PCT. And yeah, the arimidex will really eliminate any possible bloat or gyno issues. But see what some other members have to say, some may think adding the tren will be a good idea.

Good luck!

[NoFaith068]

Bumpin for more replies/advice.

[briansauras]

Personally I would go with short esters.

wk1-10 prop @ 100mg ED
wk1-8 tren @ 75mg ED
wk5-pct winny @ 100mg ED
wk0-pct 0.25-0.5mg letro ED

start pct 3days after last prop shot and continue running winny for those 2-3days but stop 24hrs before pct.

[briansauras]

double post

[NoFaith068]

Thanks for the suggestion and proper tren dosage. Don't think i'll run the winny just yet as this is more of a clean bulk than a cutting cycle. How would you dose the EQ?

[briansauras]

Thanks for the suggestion and proper tren dosage. Don't think i'll run the winny just yet as this is more of a clean bulk than a cutting cycle. How would you dose the EQ?

You can cut or bulk with winny. Alot of people on this board have gained 6lbs lean mass off of 150-200mg winny. I was thinking about running eq but after researching its a really mild compound that you shouldnt expect to gain alot off of. It needs to be ran a min of 11-12wks(unless you can find bold cyp) so you would need to extend prop to 14-15wks.

[NoFaith068]

Unfortunately enanthate is the only test ester available to me at the moment...thanks for the EQ advice. I've got some things to think about before I begin purchasing products.

[briansauras]

Unfortunately enanthate is the only test ester available to me at the moment...thanks for the EQ advice. I've got some things to think about before I begin purchasing products.

What are your other options?

[NoFaith068]

What are your other options?

What do you mean?

As far as options go it's just going to be Winny vs. EQ for me.

So cycle will look something like

Test E. 750 mg/week
Tren A. 75 mg/day (Week 1-6)
EQ or Winny dosages will differ greatly.

I will keep looking for a prop source though as i'd like to run the shorter ester test..

[briansauras]

What do you mean?

As far as options go it's just going to be Winny vs. EQ for me.

So cycle will look something like

Test E. 750 mg/week
Tren A. 75 mg/day (Week 1-6)
EQ or Winny dosages will differ greatly.

I will keep looking for a prop source though as i'd like to run the shorter ester test..

i ment like what compounds do you have at your disposal?

[NoFaith068]

Ah...I can get Tren , Test E., EQ easily.

Winny is possible but may take a while.

Have no idea where to get Test P.

[NoFaith068]

Okay have done some editing and taken the EQ out completely. As you can see a lot of time and planning goes into each of my cycles. So here it is!

Week 1-14 .25mg/Arimidex /ED
Week 1-12 750mg/Testosterone Enanthate /Week
Week 1-5 40mg/Dianabol /ED
Week 4-12 75mg/Tri-Trenabol/EOD
Week 10-14 250iu/HCG /EOD
Week 15 100mg/Clomid/ED
Week 15 40mg/Nolvadex /ED
Week 16-17 50mg/Clomid/ED
Week 16-17 20mg/Nolvadex

Am keeping the tri tren dosage to EOD as it's three esters and i'd like to be able to get the most amount of results with as little dosages as possible. So, considering this is my first time out with some Tren I figured it was a good idea. I'm going a little lighter on the Clomid this PCT as I often experience sides.

[NoFaith068]

So, no further critiques/comments?