low dose test cycle...whatcha think?

**rd53** · 11-19-2006, 05:17 PM

ok so this is my first cycle. I don't want to get huge but I'm going to try this out and see how my body reacts.

Stats:
6'4" WAS 270lbs and I've dropped down to about 235-240lbs Id say 16-18%bf. I have a clean diet going and I do about 30-45 mins of cardio 5x week. I'm looking at gaining some lean mass and dropping BF, I will also be doing a cycle of clen after the gear.

Weeks 1-10 250mg Test Enth
Weeks 1-10 25-50mg Proviron
Then Nolva and Clomid for pct

and a 6week cycle of Clen.

Good, bad, Ideas?

RD

**yarakefendi** · 11-19-2006, 05:20 PM

that looks ok, try and run the test for 12 weeks tho sincie its first time

**rd53** · 11-19-2006, 05:33 PM

also, would it be wise to run arimidex and/or hcg with this cycle, and would I need it due to the priviron? thanks

**hitman_OK** · 11-20-2006, 08:41 AM

I'm on week 7 of test cyp. @300/week and have had great gains. I would definitely recommend an AI such as arimidex from the beginning. Arimidex is pretty expensive though so you might want to check out AR-R for their liquidex. That is what I use @ .25/day and it has worked great. Good luck bro.

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-20-2006, 09:13 AM

Low dose is 300-400 IMO, and I would use 50-100mg of proviron if you need it at all... Maybe just run 10mg of nolva with test and save the proviron for pct.

**rd53** · 11-21-2006, 12:06 AM

OK so how does this sound, couple of changes.

Test Enth 250-300 12weeks
Proviron 25/50 ED 12weeks
Liquidex .25/ ED 12 weeks
HCG 250iu E3D 10-13 weeks
Nolva/Clomid 40/100 wk13
Nolva/Clomid 30/50 wk14
Nolva/Clomid 20/50 wk 15
Then my Clen cycle after this.
Clen 60ed wk16
Clen 80ed wk17
Clen 80-100ed wk18-21
Benadryl 50ed wk 18 & 21

Anyone think this is a better cycle?

**Mesomorphyl** · 11-21-2006, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by rd53

OK so how does this sound, couple of changes.

Test Enth 250-300 12weeks
Proviron 25/50 ED 12weeks
Liquidex .25/ ED 12 weeks
HCG 250iu E3D 10-13 weeks
Nolva/Clomid 40/100 wk13
Nolva/Clomid 30/50 wk14
Nolva/Clomid 20/50 wk 15
Then my Clen cycle after this.
Clen 60ed wk16
Clen 80ed wk17
Clen 80-100ed wk18-21
Benadryl 50ed wk 18 & 21

Anyone think this is a better cycle?

KISS principle (keep it simple stupid)

Test 300mg/w for 12 weeks
nolva 10mg/ed for 13 weeks
start pct two weeks after last test injection(right at week 14)
Nolva 20mg for 4 weeks(you can run for another week or two if needed)
clomid 100mg for 3 weeks then drop to 50mg for another.

Proviron can be used to help with sexual dysfunction in pct 75-100mg ed

No need to get all ldex and clen on us... this is your first.

JMO

**Bigmax** · 11-21-2006, 12:26 PM

Meso's right bro..use the advise.

**rd53** · 11-21-2006, 08:41 PM

I guess I'm just trying to be over cautious. But when I step back and look at it, I think it would be better to just keep it simple like you stated and it'll be cheaper! Thanks guys

**Myostatinus** · 05-28-2007, 08:11 AM

Here's alink to a very complete study that explored low to higher doses of Test.
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/co...urcetype=HWCIT

Here's some of the results:

As you can see the minimum dose that did not result in a reduction of IGF-1 is 300mg/wk. Hence 250mg/wk might be alright also. But I personnally would not go below 300 mg/wk based on this data.