t4, sooo tired

**mickdiesel** · 11-20-2006, 03:26 PM

so I'm about a week or so into having t4 in my cycle, (ill post stats and cycle at the bottom), and I'm rediculously tired. I know I've seen this posted with t3 a bunch before and I guess I'm wondering if anyone has the same experience and what they do. I don't wanna rely on hydroxycut for my energy everyday, can't be healthy

**mickdiesel** · 11-20-2006, 03:35 PM

stats and cycle:

5'7", 234lbs, 14% bf

prop 1-20 600mg/weel
eq 1-17 600mg/week
winny 1-4 16-20 50mg/ed
t4 (eventually t3) 4-20 200mcg ed, eventually 75mcg/ed
nolva 20mg/ed
dutasteride .5mg/ed
furazobol 20mg/ed

**mickdiesel** · 11-20-2006, 04:08 PM

nobody?

**mickdiesel** · 11-20-2006, 04:10 PM

come on I wanna kill myself over here. I fell asleep while I was peeing!!!! I need help

**RobbieG** · 11-20-2006, 04:31 PM

how's your calorie intake...

and btw:
nolva 20mg/ed
dutasteride .5mg/ed
furazobol 20mg/ed

TO MUCH.

drop the furazobol .. and the nolvadex ..

You're feeling tired because of the estrogen loss.

**mickdiesel** · 11-20-2006, 04:56 PM

so what do I do for bloat? and I take the furzy for cholesterol. I'd like not to stop it if I don't have to. it greatly effected my hdl/ldl ratio

**mickdiesel** · 11-20-2006, 04:57 PM

does furzy effect estrogen? if so how?

**Fastandfurious** · 11-20-2006, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by caban

so what do I do for bloat? and I take the furzy for cholesterol. I'd like not to stop it if I don't have to. it greatly effected my hdl/ldl ratio

How so ? Did it make any difference in relation to other orals and how much (i think you have measured this with before and after blood tests) ? I'm very interested in this.

I'm also on T3 (small dosage 12,5mcg/ed) and do experience extreme tiredness.

**mickdiesel** · 11-20-2006, 06:19 PM

I take 20mg/ed of furzy and my cholesterol went from 196 to 183. my ratio of hdl to ldl also flipped. before I had an ldl heavy ratio, now its hdl heavy. I can't remember the numbers but my doctor was happy with me. she said shes proud of me for changing my diet and sticking to it

**Fastandfurious** · 11-20-2006, 09:52 PM

Hehehe...i'd be much obliged if you could find those number for me.I have the excact same problem (low hdl).
Also,do you have any liver tests done to see if the liver was stressed ?
Thanks.

Maybe your liver is stressed and you feel tired,then again maybe (like me) it's the thyroid hormones.I cannot understand why though,it's supposed to make you feel more energized,not tired.

**Maximus_Pecs** · 11-20-2006, 09:58 PM

really depends on how mch you are eating. T3 will increase your metabolism and if you are takign in low calories and very low carbs you can easily have an glucose level in your bloodstream. This can casue yo to be quite tired. I'm dead tired in the AM as I take T3 and avoid eating for 2 hours. once I have a meal I totally feel better. The reaon I do so is that your glucose levels are lowest in the morning and the T3 really kicks off some fat burning specially with some morning cardio.