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    Test e 10wks or 12 wks?

    I am going to have 2 10ml vial @ 250mg/ml. Thats 5,000mg. I will have enough for 10 weeks @ 500mg/week or 12 weeks @ 400mg/week. Which do you guys think is better? I guess I could also do 11 weeks @ 450mg/week.
    Also does ** usually put extra in their vials? Because if I did 10 weeks @ 500
    that would be all of 5,000mg. I might not be able to get it all out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    I am going to have 2 10ml vial @ 250mg/ml. Thats 5,000mg. I will have enough for 10 weeks @ 500mg/week or 12 weeks @ 400mg/week. Which do you guys think is better? I guess I could also do 11 weeks @ 450mg/week.
    Also does ** usually put extra in their vials? Because if I did 10 weeks @ 500
    that would be all of 5,000mg. I might not be able to get it all out.

    pick up another vial and run it at 500mg for 12 weeks. cant trust any company to have exactly 10ml in there, so always have some extra

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    I see. I was just thought it would get through the mail easier with 2. I could order 3. Being my first cycle, I was curious to see what you thought.

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    Hey Bro,

    Is this your 1st cycle? are you a hardgainer? neeed a little more info.

    I gain pretty fast my 1st cycle ever was 400mg test-cyp a week and I gained alot and held onto alot, I personally think 400mg is good for test-cyp or enan but at least at 12weeks minimum(for a 1st cycle). You should always have an extra vial on hand also, don't try to cut it too close, shit happens, you dont want to run out and have to quit your cycle early. Also make sure you got your PCT on hand so its ready when your cycle is complete.

    Good luck

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    It will you in a about 5 to 6 weeks ..so you may want to 12 to reap the benefits bro.

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    as bigmax said you should run it 12 weeks to see full results from the test e considering your diet and training are in check

    good luck bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Competitive07
    Hey Bro,

    Is this your 1st cycle? are you a hardgainer? neeed a little more info.

    I gain pretty fast my 1st cycle ever was 400mg test-cyp a week and I gained alot and held onto alot, I personally think 400mg is good for test-cyp or enan but at least at 12weeks minimum(for a 1st cycle). You should always have an extra vial on hand also, don't try to cut it too close, shit happens, you dont want to run out and have to quit your cycle early. Also make sure you got your PCT on hand so its ready when your cycle is complete.

    Good luck
    Probably should have mentioned that. Yeah first cycle. 24 y/o, 5'11", 185, 19% bf (will drop to 12 before cycle). But I was thinking the same thing about the length. So now should I do 400mg or 500mg @ 12 weeks? You say 400 is good for the first time, but what would the difference be @ 500?

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    Buy the x-tra vial and do 12 weeks @ 500mg/week. I made the mistake on my first cycle of buying 2 vials. I thought it would last 10 weeks, but because of underdosing and the little bit left at the bottom of the vial I only got about 9 weeks out of them. Buy 3 vials and do it up.

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    i agree with huckster,i too am doin my first cycle of test enth,was gonna run it for 10 weeks but with all things considered gonna stretch it to 12,it might not kick in for 4-6 weeks thats why i decided to stretch it.on week 3 of 20 mg of m1t,gained 9 pounds and now holdin steady thats why i don't think the enth has kicked in yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huckster
    Buy the x-tra vial and do 12 weeks @ 500mg/week. I made the mistake on my first cycle of buying 2 vials. I thought it would last 10 weeks, but because of underdosing and the little bit left at the bottom of the vial I only got about 9 weeks out of them. Buy 3 vials and do it up.
    Did not know that. I will buy 3 vials then and run it @ 500/week. I am also doing a dbol kick start.

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    you'll love the strength gains dbol will give ya.haven't ran it before but dbol and m1t are similar,inject 2x a week,good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reppedout1
    you'll love the strength gains dbol will give ya.haven't ran it before but dbol and m1t are similar,inject 2x a week,good luck!
    Why would I need to inject twice a week? It seems people are split on this. Test e is a slow ester, I wouldn't think it would matter if you did it once a week.

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    No my friend you want to keep your blood levels stable...so 2 shots week will be better .If you're doing 500mgs split it up in 2 shots Mon and thur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmax
    No my friend you want to keep your blood levels stable...so 2 shots week will be better .If you're doing 500mgs split it up in 2 shots Mon and thur.
    Ahh I see, Well that should not be a problem. Do you think with frequent injections like that I could do it all in my quads. Just rotate each quad?

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    2 shots a week is better, like said before, you may want to include your glutes, this gives you 4 areas to inject so as not to build up scar tissue.

    I only recommended 400mg to start with because I am a fast gainer, if you are also This might be what I start out with. My 1st cycle was test-cyp 400mg@12 weeks, 2nd cycle was test-cyp@500mg@14weeks, I am currenlty on my 3rd cycle ever in 3years 600mgtest-cyp and 400mgnan-dec I have grown form every cycle. My best friend is 5 weeks into his 1st cycle ever and it is 400mg test-cyp a week, he is responding real good. I wouldnt do the d-bol 1st cycle either I personally think it is a waste of your money.

    Just my 2cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Competitive07
    2 shots a week is better, like said before, you may want to include your glutes, this gives you 4 areas to inject so as not to build up scar tissue.

    I only recommended 400mg to start with because I am a fast gainer, if you are also This might be what I start out with. My 1st cycle was test-cyp 400mg@12 weeks, 2nd cycle was test-cyp@500mg@14weeks, I am currenlty on my 3rd cycle ever in 3years 600mgtest-cyp and 400mgnan-dec I have grown form every cycle. My best friend is 5 weeks into his 1st cycle ever and it is 400mg test-cyp a week, he is responding real good. I wouldnt do the d-bol 1st cycle either I personally think it is a waste of your money.

    Just my 2cents
    I have heard people getting good gains from a dbol kick start.

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    i'm injecting quads only this cycle right one tuesday,left one fri,u should allow 6 days for each inject site before u inject their again,to prevent scar buildup.i'm just not using glutes cause i have to like use 6 sites for my upcoming spring cutter so i'm just not into any other spots right now.

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    I'm not sure about glutes. It seems like it would be hard to turn and control the needle and asparate. But I'm not that flexable either. I could do the side of my arse pretty easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    I'm not sure about glutes. It seems like it would be hard to turn and control the needle and asparate. But I'm not that flexable either. I could do the side of my arse pretty easy.
    go to s p o t i n j e c t i o n s.com , that should help you out

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    Cool, thanks. Good info on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reppedout1
    i'm injecting quads only this cycle right one tuesday,left one fri,u should allow 6 days for each inject site before u inject their again,to prevent scar buildup.i'm just not using glutes cause i have to like use 6 sites for my upcoming spring cutter so i'm just not into any other spots right now.

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    hell longer is better i went 15 weeks on my first go

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    Id get another vial and do 500mgs a week for 12 weeks! thats wot I did first time, was good.

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    What size needle is for glutes? Is it 1.5". And quads is 1" right? And usually a 3cc needle.

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    I use 1.5" for both areas, draw out with a 20g and inject with a 23g

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    use 1'' for quads

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    Quote Originally Posted by beezlebubb666
    use 1'' for quads
    yea 1" 25g for quads

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    Cool, I will do that. Lucky for me I can get them at wallgreens.

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    the longer the better.. remember ur just priming the system for hte first 5 weeks unless u frontload hard, which is not reccommended for a novice.
    so bout the 4th5th week ur up to ur platue as far as cumulative ester stacking, plus u shud start seeing real gains about then unless ur far past ur genetic peak then expect VERY lil but very very few start when they are PAST their genetic peak, i know i never saw krap off my cycles

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    Roger that, 12 weeks it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    the longer the better.. remember ur just priming the system for hte first 5 weeks unless u frontload hard, which is not reccommended for a novice.
    so bout the 4th5th week ur up to ur platue as far as cumulative ester stacking, plus u shud start seeing real gains about then unless ur far past ur genetic peak then expect VERY lil but very very few start when they are PAST their genetic peak, i know i never saw krap off my cycles
    dude, can you please elaborate on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by std4
    dude, can you please elaborate on this.
    well i can try but wat u are asking for is like
    "That sign is a very red color of red."
    "Can you please elaborate?" lol

    genetic peak/genetic potentional is like ur platue of how big ur body can get naturaly w/o adding exogenous substances and can take 10+yrs to acquire. mostly its based on dedication and strict dieting at all times..
    lets say ur 5'10 245lbs around 10% or so .. thats pretty jacked especially for a natty person so their body isnt going to be as apt to put on lbm as a person who is farther away from their genetic peak such as SAME FRAME/GENETICS but his LBM is decreased by 30-40lbs and has bout 8-12lbs of additional fat.

    sure u can always change ur diet/ shocke the system/ rotate training regiments but the fact is the bigger u get the harder it is to get BIGGER..

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    well i can try but wat u are asking for is like
    "That sign is a very red color of red."
    "Can you please elaborate?" lol

    genetic peak/genetic potentional is like ur platue of how big ur body can get naturaly w/o adding exogenous substances and can take 10+yrs to acquire. mostly its based on dedication and strict dieting at all times..
    lets say ur 5'10 245lbs around 10% or so .. thats pretty jacked especially for a natty person so their body isnt going to be as apt to put on lbm as a person who is farther away from their genetic peak such as SAME FRAME/GENETICS but his LBM is decreased by 30-40lbs and has bout 8-12lbs of additional fat.

    sure u can always change ur diet/ shocke the system/ rotate training regiments but the fact is the bigger u get the harder it is to get BIGGER..

    yes you meant what i thought. i think there is a major flow in your theory. genetic potential is not the same as natural potential. natural potential is how big you can become without aas. genetic potential is how possibly big you can become(this is limited by muscle shape and so on).for example ronnie could have 20inches natural arms. that was his natural plateu. but he began taking aas and reached 23inches (this is his genetic plateu). whatever he does he can't exceed this 23.


    i have a friend who has 19 inches natural arms. so you think this guy has almost no future wheh he begins using aas?

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