Primo?? Gains??

[SHAGGY]

Hi there, I am posing this question in hopes of someone being able to elaborate or explain on what might have gone wrong.
Several weeks ago I purchased Methenolone Enanthate from a local powder source, it arrived no problem and pretty much looked like the real deal.

I brewed it at 250mg/ml using BS, BA, EO, GrO. A buddy of mine has been using it since. This is is second cycle, his first cycle consisted of Schering Primo bought in Turkey in amps; 600mg/week, followed up by Clomid from lion as PCT. He gained a substantial amount of weight.

His current cycle consists of Oxandrolone(anavar ) at 80mg/day and 1000mg Methenolone Enanthate(primobolan )/week.

He is now in his 7th week and has yet to gain any weight.
This is a complete riddle to me, because he has been bulking, training at the right intensity and resting more then adequatly.

And we also frontloaded the first 2 weeks with 1500mg Primo/week.

Seems impossible to me that he has not gained any weight.
Also there is not a body composition change, he did not lose fat and gain muscle. Strenght has gone forward the slightest bit.

What is your opinions?? Source sent wrong stuff??

Thanks for any replies in advance.

SHAGGY

[vermin]

Never use brew that hasn't been verified by lab test.

[SHAGGY]

Yeah I guess you are right. Brewed it myself, can't really know what the powder was though. But it really isn't so evident, because the only place I know where it can be tested is on another continent(America).

Any ideas though??

SHAGGY

[vermin]

Anthony Roberts supposedly used a lab in Germany for a recent article - I'd research that.

[SHAGGY]

Super. Any idea which lab it was or a link to where you found this information??

Thanks.

SHAGGY

[vermin]

He mentioned it in a thread here and on his blog - but he did not specify the lab. If there are any Admins or Vets you know you could start by PMing them. Otherwise, there are some who if you ask them politely will help you find the info - look for some you've interacted with in threads and see if they will help in their sigs. The good news is, asking for a testing lab is a whole lot less problematic than asking for a source.

[SHAGGY]

Indeed. Thanks again for the replys, will search on Anthonys blog and also ask some mods.

Thanks again, you have been a great help.

Anyone else any ideas input??

SHAGGY

[SHAGGY]

Bump.

SHAGGY

[Mesomorphyl]

250mg? 100mg is like syrup. I would think it would hurt.

[SHAGGY]

The thickness is really not a big issue, Because of the use of EO in the mix it is still very fluid, maybe even moreso then the his first cycle from Schering.

Any idea what the problem could be??
Any idea about a lab??

Thanks.

SHAGGY

[SHAGGY]

Bumping. And was wondering. For a lab analysis, how much ml of a solution do they need to test for it??

Thanks in advance for any replies.

SHAGGY

[SHAGGY]

Anyone know how much is needed for lab analysis??
Or should I start a specific thread for it??

Bumping.

SHAGGY

[Random]

hey man, usually 2-3ml is needed for a lab test...

[bowie]

Hi there, I am posing this question in hopes of someone being able to elaborate or explain on what might have gone wrong.
Several weeks ago I purchased Methenolone Enanthate from a local powder source, it arrived no problem and pretty much looked like the real deal.

I brewed it at 250mg/ml using BS, BA, EO, GrO. A buddy of mine has been using it since. This is is second cycle, his first cycle consisted of Schering Primo bought in Turkey in amps; 600mg/week, followed up by Clomid from lion as PCT. He gained a substantial amount of weight.

His current cycle consists of Oxandrolone(anavar ) at 80mg/day and 1000mg Methenolone Enanthate(primobolan )/week.

He is now in his 7th week and has yet to gain any weight.
This is a complete riddle to me, because he has been bulking, training at the right intensity and resting more then adequatly.

And we also frontloaded the first 2 weeks with 1500mg Primo/week.

Seems impossible to me that he has not gained any weight.
Also there is not a body composition change, he did not lose fat and gain muscle. Strenght has gone forward the slightest bit.

What is your opinions?? Source sent wrong stuff??

Thanks for any replies in advance.

SHAGGY

what I don't understand is, you say you don't know why he's not gaining any weight because he's bulking. Why if he's bulking would you use 2 of the mildest steriods out there. Anavar and primo is what I would use as a bridge(or a cutter) and I would not expect to gain more than 5-7 pounds.

[SHAGGY]

Yes, Primobolan and anavar are comparetively mild steroids , but at 1000mg/week and 80mg/day one would expect to see some results.
We have pretty much seen none. Also some typical things like faster recuperation or massive hungers have not manifested.

Even 7 pounds would be a welcome amount of weight to gain.

Thanks for the replies guys.

Thanks CaptainDominate.

SHAGGY

[Random]

Hey no prob man

[Standard01]

Yes, Primobolan and anavar are comparetively mild steroids , but at 1000mg/day and 80mg/day one would expect to see some results.
We have pretty much seen none. Also some typical things like faster recuperation or massive hungers have not manifested.

Even 7 pounds would be a welcome amount of weight to gain.

Thanks for the replies guys.

Thanks CaptainDominate.

SHAGGY

He's running 7g a week of primo, or did you mean per day?

[Standard01]

Sorry, I read up top that its per week, 1g per day might be interesting or pointless.

[SHAGGY]

1g per day would be complicated I think, the voluminous injections on theis own would be problematic, and I think the receptors would all allready be occupied by a much lower amount, think it would be useless to inject that much, but if someone does I would love to follow it up and see what it would do.

So in conclusion he is using 1g every week.

Thanks for the replies.

SHAGGY

[polat]

I am one of the lucky guy to get primo easy.
but I have never used it more than 400mg...
I don't simply see any reason to take 1gr/w.
I use primo when I diet and even on a intense diet I don't lose any size but bodyfat!
I suggest that use primo 400-600mg(depens on your bodyweight) and run it for 12 weeks. Whatever it puts on remains longer than any other aas.

[SHAGGY]

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Anyone have similar experiences?? Anyone have an opinion on what it could be??

SHAGGY