Cycle Without Test

[ProUser910]

I want to cut hardcore but i dont want to use anymore test because my levels are normal and i gained alot of weight running test but i do want to take injectables to keep my strength up

Now i havent figured out the Miligrams or anything im just dabbling with this in my head and want to hear from people if its possible to pull of

trend
eq
winny
cytomel
clenny

is it possible to make that a cycle and take all the proper pct i just don't want anything that will mess up my test levels as me and my wife are planning to have a baby in the next year

please dont flame... i havent given it much thought just lying in bed thinking how i can shred up but still be as strong as i am

if anyone has tried something similar and had to use vitamins or supplements to make up for the test then please just give me ur 2 cents but other than that dont really need people telling me its a stupid idea

[rafael]

i did a test free cycle . used dbol / decca / winny and had good results and i kept a good portion of what i gained. Now that i look back..if i did add test...i may have added on maybe 10-15% more...

[ProUser910]

ya test is a good keep gainer im not worried up that im trying to shed weight but keep strength i just got my cleans back up to 275 and bench to 345 now if i can do that weighing 200 that would be a great accomplishment for me... can you tell me why u didnt run test... because ive never ran a cycle without test but now im just gettin of a cycle with test and put on 30lbs and the strength gains were incredible im just nervous if i cut ill go back down to poor numbers and i cant use test because my wife and i are going to try and have a kid within the next year

[rafael]

due to the situation at the time..i was in the service @ the time and didnt have any on hand basically...and we were out @ sea for some time..and i wanted to run a cycle...so i did...best as i could :P

[perfectbeast2001]

whether you make gains is not really the question because you will with or without test. It may be beneficial to include test to keep your libido from dropping through the floor.
If you are worried about test levels then DONT CYCLE. the compounds you have outlined will shut you down and test levels will be ZERO.
If you wish to cycle without affecting test levels then GH,IGF,slin,mgf all/or combination of, is your only real option.

[demonds]

Well said, I dont understand how some people are afraid of using test on their cycle 'cause of shutdown but they are willing to run tren or deca wich are known to shut you down eve\n harder. At least test will keep that libido going througout the whole cycle and even at the end with proper pct it wont be that hard to recover. Now, deca and tren without test, say goodbye to your sex life, be sure to have a good laid they night before 'cause thats the last one you will have on a long time

[ProUser910]

alright boys great info i had no idea trend and eq can shut you down like that i thought only replacing something natural for its artificial form would should it down... meaning i would have natural test still running in my system the natural 100mg produced weekly and i would just add the other compounds im going to look into gh or just use cytomel/clen and a bunch of otc supps until i have a kid because im nervous even though i take hcg clomid nolva and letro in my cycles with 1gram+ test im still nervous of never regaining natural test levels... thanks for the info

[frank12391]

He will be shooting blanks at a time when he's trying to have a child

[frank12391]

Thats even if he can get it up, sorry you gotta include the test or don't cycle at all

[Booz]

He will be shooting blanks at a time when he's trying to have a child

why??

[Booz]

i have had 2 of my 4 children whilst i was using gear.............