How Is Finaplex liver and kidney toxic?

**gottibme** · 12-03-2006, 01:45 PM

How can finaplex be liver and kidney toxic if you inject it?and its not 17 alpha alkalated?I think websites blow stuff out of proportion about toxicity of stuff

**guest589745** · 12-03-2006, 01:46 PM

Nothing bypasses the liver. Injectables just go throuhg it once wheras orals go through twice.

**Snrf** · 12-03-2006, 02:01 PM

Ask Goalseeker about it, I think it was him that got jaundice from running it for 12 weeks 150mg a day....

**gottibme** · 12-03-2006, 02:30 PM

If he got joundice from it then it is really liver toxic then?Or was he doing more than tren ?

**guest589745** · 12-03-2006, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by gottibme

If he got joundice from it then it is really liver toxic then?Or was he doing more than tren?

Tren isn't very pleasant often.

**fLgAtOr** · 12-03-2006, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by gottibme

If he got joundice from it then it is really liver toxic then?Or was he doing more than tren?

He was using other compounds including winny.

**gottibme** · 12-03-2006, 02:34 PM

Oh ok see,people dont get there facts right and worry people on here, oh ok that makes sence because winny is 17 alpha alkalated,and if he was doing more then there you go.thanks man

**fLgAtOr** · 12-03-2006, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by gottibme

what is that supposed to mean?Do you know if your friend was doing more than just tren?

It means that I read his post and he said he was using other compounds. It's not fair to say that tren alone cuased jaundice.

In fact I haven't seen any evidence of tren being any more liver toxic than any other injectable.

The kidney thing is also up for debate.

EDIT
I would think that lipids and androgenic sides would be a bigger concern.

***BajanBastard*** · 12-03-2006, 02:46 PM

I once thought tren 's kidney toxic effects were BS but at 200mg daily my piss was black as coffee and i was drinking over a gallon of water daily.

**gottibme** · 12-03-2006, 02:49 PM

were you taking any cranberry extract?or any supplement to help you out?

**guest589745** · 12-03-2006, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

I once thought tren's kidney toxic effects were BS but at 200mg daily my piss was black as coffee and i was drinking over a gallon of water daily.

Holy shit, how long did you run it that high for?

Have you had bloodowrk done ever baj? If so, how does it look ?

***BajanBastard*** · 12-03-2006, 02:52 PM

Nope lol. This was only after a few days, cycle stopped soon afterwards.

***BajanBastard*** · 12-03-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Holy shit, how long did you run it that high for?

Have you had bloodowrk done ever baj? If so, how does it look ?

I was on 200mg for 9 days before 'it' happened. Bloodwork? Are you nuts? I can't afford that shit!

**guest589745** · 12-03-2006, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

I was on 200mg for 9 days before 'it' happened. Bloodwork? Are you nuts? I can't afford that shit!

Haha, what no insurance? Just go make up some shit and tell them everythin ghurts, they'll get total bloodowrk done, thats what I did twice. The **** wouldt test my hormone leevls though

**fLgAtOr** · 12-03-2006, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

I was on 200mg for 9 days before 'it' happened. Bloodwork? Are you nuts? I can't afford that shit!

Butterfingers?

**guest589745** · 12-03-2006, 03:02 PM

LMAO, oh yea, I forgot abotu "it" for a minute.

***BajanBastard*** · 12-03-2006, 03:08 PM

Oh how funny you two are!

**fLgAtOr** · 12-03-2006, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

Oh how funny you two are!

Its only funny 'cause it didn't happen to me! Hug?

Anyone know exactly how tren effects the kidneys?

**guest589745** · 12-03-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

Its only funny 'cause it didn't happen to me! Hug?

Anyone know exactly how tren effects the kidneys?

The kidneys are just part of the bodies filtration system. Trenbolone "particles" or whatever you wanna call em, cause stress to the kidneys and result in lesions or something to that extent. Hell I aint even 100% sure, bump for better response lol.

BG · 12-03-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

I once thought tren's kidney toxic effects were BS but at 200mg daily my piss was black as coffee and i was drinking over a gallon of water daily.

I knew it was toxic.

**Random** · 12-03-2006, 07:29 PM

Wow thats some scary sh1t!

***G-1000*** · 12-03-2006, 08:16 PM

The kidneys are under more strain during steroid intake. They are involved in the filtration and excretion of toxic by-products. A high blood pressure as well as variations in the water and electrolyte balance of the body can lead to long-term changes in the kidney's function. A Wilm's tumor, a fast-growing kidney tumor normally only seen in infants and children has been noticed in certain rare cases in athletes using steroids . It is doubtful if there is a direct connection between the two. It is certain though, that during steroid consumption several athletes may develop a dark-colored urine and, in extreme cases, even blood in the urine. The former Finaject and today's Parabolan , in particular, seem to have a toxic effect on the kidney function.

***BajanBastard*** · 12-03-2006, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

I knew it was toxic.

Strateg0s over at M&M told me tren made him piss blood clots.

**BGIZZLE8629** · 12-03-2006, 11:15 PM

"The kidneys are under more strain during steroid intake. They are involved in the filtration and excretion of toxic by-products. A high blood pressure as well as variations in the water and electrolyte balance of the body can lead to long-term changes in the kidney's function. A Wilm's tumor, a fast-growing kidney tumor normally only seen in infants and children has been noticed in certain rare cases in athletes using steroids . It is doubtful if there is a direct connection between the two. It is certain though, that during steroid consumption several athletes may develop a dark-colored urine and, in extreme cases, even blood in the urine. The former Finaject and today's Parabolan , in particular, seem to have a toxic effect on the kidney function."
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So do you know what to take supplement wise in order to prevent/escape the harsh effects of parabolan and trenbolone ??? I had blood in my urine once before after using Tren and thought that I had kidney stones - had horrible pains and sh*t too - NOT FUN! Thanks.

**doittoit** · 12-04-2006, 01:58 AM

I can only say I had a full blood panel on 500mg test/1g tren /200mg winny daily and my kidney's were fine, thyroid fine, liver enzymes a bit high, only worry cholesterol.