short cycle

**judge_dread** · 12-05-2006, 04:54 AM

I just started (been "on" for a week) a short cycle consisting of Test Prop and NPP
My cycle is : weeks 1-4 test prop 100mg every 3rd day
-//- 1-4 NPP 100mg every 3rd day
-//- 1-4 Metanabol 20mg ED
-//- 4 HCG 300IU ED

I just want to see the effect of a cycle like this in terms of muscle gains and ability of keeping them post cycle.

**Xtralarg** · 12-05-2006, 05:23 AM

Sorry bro I dont rate it. Its a very low dose for a shot cycle, im not sure of your previous experience but even if you a newby to aas then 233mg of prop +NPP PW isnt gona do a great deal in any cycle.

All IMHO, DYOR.

**judge_dread** · 12-05-2006, 05:31 AM

Yep the doses are relatively low, my bad I should up them in order to make a strong effect

**Xtralarg** · 12-05-2006, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by judge_dread

Yep the doses are relatively low, my bad I should up them in order to make a strong effect

I would do...100mg prop ed would be better, think about pulling the NPP out before the prop as well.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 12-05-2006, 05:44 AM

You will see some good results at 100mg ED for the prop and NPP.
What are your stats and goals??

**judge_dread** · 12-05-2006, 06:57 AM

my goal is to gain 7-8 lbs and hold half of them, I am gonna follow that protocol repeatedly after a period of 2 weeks off.I weigh 192 lbs with unknown bf

**fLgAtOr** · 12-05-2006, 07:03 AM

I think its a waste. Whats the point of jumping back on after 2 weeks? You think you're going to be recovered? All I see is a hormonal roller coaster. Your dosages are low even for a 1st cycle... You want to gain 8 and keep four? I say get your dosages worked out and stay on for 6-8 weeks.

So what is your cycle experience?

How tall are you?

Unknow bf%? Hmm...Can you see abs, so you have love handles, is your stomach so big you cant see your dick? Gotta give us an estimate here.

**marcus300** · 12-05-2006, 07:39 AM

Don't like it at all, i think your goals are easy achievable if your just did a standard 6-8 wk cycle, 4 on 2 off isn't something id recommend at those dosages, also we need alot more info on yourself to advice the best advice, stats,age,training experience and cycle history??

**judge_dread** · 12-05-2006, 07:56 AM

I def can see my dick! my abs area is bit blurry though ,anyway my previous cycle experience is 2 cycles (8 weeks both, low doses of Test and Primo + Anavar ).I am 6'1" 192lbs small frame classic hardgainer.
Since I am at the very beggining of the protocol and I can make readjustments do u believe that for a recreational user like me with no intention to compete short cycles are less preferable in comparison to classic longer ones?

**vitor** · 12-05-2006, 10:27 AM

By doing 4/weeks) on 2 off, you will not recover your HPTA and will remain supressed. Bad idea!

I know the 2 on/4off has been sucsesfully done by someone I know. Bill roberts also have studies with this cycling method.

The theory behind it is that for the first 2 weeks on cycle, only the "hypotalamus" is inhibited, and it produces alot less LHRH as a results of the high levels of sex-hormone it senses,
but the "pituitary" is not inhibited at all(its actually sensitized,and will respond to LHRH even more so than usal after only 2-weeks, which allows for a rapid recovery.)

**Bigmax** · 12-05-2006, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Don't like it at all, i think your goals are easy achievable if your just did a standard 6-8 wk cycle, 4 on 2 off isn't something id recommend at those dosages, also we need alot more info on yourself to advice the best advice, stats,age,training experience and cycle history??

Agree..100%!!!!!...what up marcus bro???