second cycle help?

[trainfreak]

hi guys just a few questions about my second cycle, started bodybuiding 2 years ago and really messed up my first cycle, jumped straight in after only 4 months of training my natural potential, dident take anti-estrogens, dident eat right, no glutamine, creatine, hmb, multi vits. basically i f###ed up big time. after that course i stopped training and my body just shut down, acne,deppression etc. Its now a year and a half on and im back in shape ive gained 20 pounds naturally, i may have hindered my gains by doing lots of cardio but this stands me in good stead for my second cycle. im thinkin about an oral course and need some help, all suggestions welcome. by the way names ad.

age:19
weight:160
height:6,3
bench press:85 kg

[SMAN12b]

Orals alone are the sign of an UNeducated person or one that is afraid of needles.

At 19 you are way too young to even consider steroids . at 6' 3" and ONLY 160, I think you need to take the next 2-3 years and focus on your food intake and training so that you have a better base. at you height, you shouldn't even consider steroids until you have reached a natural base of at least 200lbs

[Getbig06]

hi guys just a few questions about my second cycle, started bodybuiding 2 years ago and really messed up my first cycle, jumped straight in after only 4 months of training my natural potential, dident take anti-estrogens, dident eat right, no glutamine, creatine, hmb, multi vits. basically i f###ed up big time. after that course i stopped training and my body just shut down, acne,deppression etc. Its now a year and a half on and im back in shape ive gained 20 pounds naturally, i may have hindered my gains by doing lots of cardio but this stands me in good stead for my second cycle. im thinkin about an oral course and need some help, all suggestions welcome. by the way names ad.

age:19
weight:160
height:6,3
bench press:85 kg

A lot of guys here will wonder why you (assuming that your DIET IS ON POINT) just don't keep working out naturally until you get a little older and reach your "genetic potential". Orals are worse for you than injectionables so may want to rethink your approach.

[trainfreak]

its not a question of if.i am doing course in the next 2 months so input for that would be good. im not looking to get huge over a 20 year period i just want slow quality gains and a good pct setup, cheers. all input welcome on injectables

[trainfreak]

200 pounds is my overall target

[SMAN12b]

slow gains can be achieved by tweeking your diet. as stated steroids are not magic pills and they will NOT make up for what you are lacking in food intake. You have to feed the steroids properly in order for them to do their job.

You are risking screwing up your HPTA and fusing your growth plates early by using steroids at your age.

But hey, your gonna do what your gonna do no matter what we say I believe, so GOOD LUCK

[getpumped24]

too young, too much natural weight still to gain, not enough aas research. you don't need aas. at 6'3" and 19 you can hit 200 lbs naturally, be patient. get you diet in check, train hard and the weight will come.

[t-gunz]

just curious how old were you when you had your first cycle?

[GHO5T]

swan i like the new avatar bro

[SMAN12b]

swan i like the new avatar bro

Me thinks someone is dislexic. Its a "M" not a "W"......lolol s M an

[reppedout1]

dude how did my girlfriend end up in your avi?jk she is fn smokin!!!

[GHO5T]

Me thinks someone is dislexic. Its a "M" not a "W"......lolol s M an

i was too busy staring at the avatar bro

[SMAN12b]

Glad i finally got an avy that you guys like.....lolol guess I will leave her up for a while

[trainfreak]

right then guys ill show you my food intake in an average day and tell me what you reckon could be changed

6:30, 1 bowl porridge, 2 scoops whey, banana, multi vitamin

10:00, potatoe salad with 2 chicken breasts, apple, cod liver tabs

2:00, pasta or rice with lots of salad, 2 scoops whey

5:00, workout(maximuscle cyclone shake 30 mins before and 30 mins after)

6:30, turkey breasts, 2 jacket potatoes, 2 tbspoons olive oil

9:00, 2 scoops whey, cottage cheese and crackers, milk thistle

[SMAN12b]

right then guys ill show you my food intake in an average day and tell me what you reckon could be changed

6:30, 1 bowl porridge, 2 scoops whey, banana, multi vitamin

10:00, potatoe salad with 2 chicken breasts, apple, cod liver tabs

2:00, pasta or rice with lots of salad, 2 scoops whey

5:00, workout(maximuscle cyclone shake 30 mins before and 30 mins after)

6:30, turkey breasts, 2 jacket potatoes, 2 tbspoons olive oil

9:00, 2 scoops whey, cottage cheese and crackers, milk thistle

1. Meals should be as evenly spaced out as possible not exceeding 3 hours
2. Too much powder protein, you need more WHOLE FOODS, especially for breakfast. get some eggs in there
3. Potato Salad is not the best choice due to bad fat content
4. Your only meat is 2 chicken breasts and a turkey breast. you need more whole protein sources, Tuna, steak, seafood

[trainfreak]

cheers man wicked, ill tweak it up a bit. what do you think about mixing up raw eggs for a clean source of protein to replace one or two whey shakes?

[GHO5T]

IMO you rely too much on powder protien, the majority of your protein intake should come from whole foods like sman said above

you might want to post your diet in the diet section and you will get better help there